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So afraid. This forum is disproportionately “conservatives,” - read populists - and it’s telling how no one is engaging here. You guys may be in a cult if you can’t explain yourself more than that. It’s a more socially acceptable cult - one in which you get to have cookouts with your white friends and go to church and feel like you’re normal - but it’s fundamentally a group where you avoid critical discussion or introspection to avoid being socially outcast. It would be hilarious if you were a self governing commune, but you’re fuc*ing up the country. You guys talk condescendingly on here about how people won’t debate beliefs, but then when they do you can’t talk about what principles specifically you care about. Your literal only response is a fallacy: “Dems would be worse.” It’s the 5 year old putting his fingers in his ears. You guys don’t even introspect and try to make the R candidate better. Because “Dems would be worse.” Results in your position boiling down to “Welp, yeah. I don’t like the admin making billions in office and starting another forever war that’s just like Russia Ukraine and covering up and lying about the Epstein files and increasing the deficit and exploding the debt even though they’ve promised to decrease it and increasing inflation and doing nothing to make the middle class better and lying constantly on social media and saying that the first and fourteenth amendments should be suspended and trying to force folks off the air and keeps saying they will run for a third term. But obviously the dems would have covered up the Epstein Files more and made more cryptocurrencies in office and tripled inflation way more and definitely would have started 5 forever wars and they would force my labradoodle to get a sex change 😱 and they would install Obama again. Even though all historical data discounts this.” Your position is, ironically, one that is created purely due to fear. Name your core beliefs that make Talarico a worse candidate than Paxton. Name your principles that invalidate Mark Kelly as the president. Compare it to the retards you would select. Explain why Thomas Massie was a bad conservative.

Whose policy was that again? Inflation is a bitch isn’t it?

Or if we as Americans held politicians that did illegal or unethical things to account (on the dem side that would include people such as Pelosi and Clinton), maybe we’d be in a better spot. It certainly is a choice to throw our hands up in the air and say “everyone does the bad things, so therefore nothing is bad because I can’t say my side is bad.”

Unironically, those on the right are trained to call this the cost of doing business and totally what you voted for #nonewwars.

I cannot wait for my $5000 freedom dividend (and my $5000 DOGE check) to clear. I’m glad that my fellow countrymen get why this is a good idea.

Thanks Obama.

Hope not. I wouldn’t vote for AOC - and you guys think I’m a super libtard - unless you people run Trump jr. or Vance again. Would probably vote for Rubio over her. Please for the love of god stop making us choose between communists and whatever you guys want to call this. We need a reset.

This makes sense!

@17D_guy You just don't get it. None of what you say matters, because they did something everyone else liked by putting the bad Spanish speaking people in the funny camps down in Florida. You will never understand because we are men of integrity and honor. (If you can’t come in her…)

I know you hate when I show up - this is your space, I get it. Here’s some light reading that refutes your main claims that I’m sure you’d like to be aware of. Next time, you can use Google to find things like this yourself. https://www.theguardian.com/world/2026/may/14/israel-nationalists-jerusalem-day-march-anniversary-protest https://www.theguardian.com/world/2025/nov/10/israeli-soldiers-breaking-ranks-gaza-civilians-human-shields Again, sorry to be a drag.

I had no idea I have so thoroughly destroyed you lmao.

This war of totally not unilateral presidential direction did accomplish one objective, the media isn’t wasting their time talking about those pesky Epstein files anymore.

Whatever makes you feel better buddy. You still didn’t answer the question (because you struggle with your arguments). Also, you’re so far off base it’s hilarious, but it does make me appreciate the internet. Remember how delusional you guys are that when a retired C-17 squadron commander came in a couple months ago with different views than the talk radio pumping into your assholes, you all literally said his account must have been compromised because you can’t COMPREHEND that you live in an echo chamber of delusion.

ah, he’s mad. What’s the bullshit again? What exactly do I not have knowledge of? Be specific. Let’s get back to the thing that you keep dancing around. What have we accomplished strategically? Multiple propagandists on this site stated this all was worth it to stop Iran from getting a nuke. Womp womp, well that talking point seems a bit dumb. Don’t they have the exact same amount of nuclear material, a more hardline government, a distrust of the US, and now understand that they can control the Straits of Hormuz anytime they want with shitty drones they can make themselves? On top of that, I predict that this deal terms will give them a disgusting amount of reparations that you all will cheer for like lemmings.

Are strikes on water reservoirs good? Just happened btw. How about desalination plants? I appreciate that you guys are doubling down on the “targets have always been military things” line.

Estimates, depending on source, put the proportion of civcas at 15-20% of total dead, at a minimum, with some sources estimating 50%. MilitarySpend.orgIran War Casualties 2026: US, Iran & Civilian Death Toll...2026 Iran war casualties tracker: 8,351–17,685 total killed across all sides. US 13–15 KIA, Iran 1,800–7,650 military KIA, civilian casualties across Iran, Israel, Lebanon and Gulf states, plus US equ

Truth

Because war is peace, freedom is slavery, ignorance is strength.

The central question was never whether Iran was a challenging environment. Nor was it whether Iran posed a serious threat, had the potential for nuclear weapons if they put their minds to it, fired ballistic missiles, or occasionally conducted special operations that targeted western citizens. All of that is true. The question was whether those conditions compelled the methods chosen — or whether they were invoked to justify choices that were poorly aligned with the United States’ own stated objectives.” He (smartly) doesn’t mention the clear “unstated” objective: to distract from other political difficulties that were becoming unmanageable. Once evaluated by that criteria suddenly everything starts to make perfect sense.

Interesting how your takeaway point here is that “I could see the democrats abusing this” as opposed to “I see active abuse occurring right now in only one party that I do or do not agree with.” Making invalid hypothetical comparisons is a fallacy.

Someone writing something you don’t like doesn’t make it propaganda. Someone writing something anti administration doesn’t make it propaganda. Nor does it make it morally wrong. As Teddy Roosevelt said, Patriotism means to stand by the country. It does not mean to stand by the president or any other public official, save exactly to the degree in which he himself stands by the country. You probably are also initially upset that the NYT has correctly ID’d Chinese perceptions that the US are making poor strategic choices. Like expending half of our cruise missile inventory. archive.isChina Sees a ‘Giant With a Limp’ as U.S. Drains Weapons o...I’d reassess. It is a fact that the American people - who live in a democratic republic - deserve to know what their country is doing and have a right to impact that course. As a reminder, the Iran war is at a -20 point net favorability in this country. It is not the duty of the media to propagandize every state action and return favorability. That’s what happens in North Korea and Iran. I’d also reflect and realize that you have no counters at all to the factuality of the articles. You just attack that they exist - precisely because you can’t point out how they are wrong. It is the mark of someone who does not have a valid counter argument to devolve to calling something they don’t like propaganda. War is peace, freedom is slavery, ignorance is strength, eh?

And just to be clear, I believe that all gerrymandering is bad, but cherry picking what we call bad and ignoring it where it is beneficial is literally just more gerrymandering. Either get rid of district maps being drawn by election commissions and just split the US into amorphous blobs fairly distributed mathematically. Or just go by popular vote. If New England is 40% republican, give them 40% of the seats. Give Texas 40% dem seats. Give California 40% republican seats. Sounds good to me and much more fair than what happens now. On top of that, give third parties a chance to gain representation.

Do you actually think Black Rights are not a political ideology by definition? A political ideology is not just Democratic and Republican. You not agreeing with that as an ideology or wanting to not over represent it is a different argument, but there’s no question that in 1965 and now, it’s a legitimate political sect. Just like white rights/supremacists.

Ratner hyperventilating at his computer and retreating back to projection or Ad Hominem when he doesn’t have an argument, a tale as old as time.

Is your argument really that “racial gerrymandering is bad, but the partisan gerrymandering is different”? Because that’s what loudly complaining about democratic gerrymandering without expressing the whole picture is. Also wtf is “partisan” gerrymandering? Turns out both disenfranchise voters. To take your example to completion. Louisiana is choosing (not forced) to stop an ACTIVE election to redraw their maps in a way that will ultimately be gerrymandered more towards an already nationally biased republican advantage. Confirm that this makes sense to your principles? And to all points on New England, Texas has more registered democrats than Republicans and depending on year has 42-46% of the state vote dem for president. They are redrawing the maps to go to about 5 dems of 38 total reps.