HeloDude

This doesn’t really sound like much of a “democracy” to me. https://www.nationalreview.com/news/zelensky-suspends-opposition-parties-in-ukraine-with-russia-ties/

When the MSM right away comes out to discredit the Hunter Laptop story as misinformation/Russian propaganda, and big tech tech sensors anything related to the story…only to 1.5 years admit that it was true, then you have to ask yourself “why”? https://nypost.com/2022/03/17/the-times-finally-admits-hunter-bidens-laptop-is-real/

So if Zelensky is an honest leader, then why didn’t the Dems trust him in 2019? https://www.foxnews.com/politics/ukraine-president-says-no-blackmail-in-phone-call-with-trump

Iran is claiming responsibility for the attack. https://apnews.com/article/iran-missile-attack-erbil-iraq-us-consulate-7a4ea6281fe6191a4e4b640c58c7fd49

The government will rarely ever be successful in “taking something away from you” that you already own. That being said, they’ll raise taxes on gas to dissuade you from owning it. Or your state will raise the cost of renewing your tags but will give a large discount on EV tags. Also, the government will require new gas cars to be able to get current gas mileage + a new X miles to the gallon in 5 years. On and on. They’ll just make it more difficult for you to keep your vehicle and will incentivize you to buy a new EV with taxpayer money (“cash for clunkers” anyone??), or most likely, future taxpayer’s money. And just like I was against cash for clunkers, I was against the auto bailout as well. But there’s no way the government was going to let those union jobs fail. None of this will be done to directly help people, rather it will be done in the name of “fighting climate change”…and yet the elites will still have whatever they want to drive, their private jets, etc because they can afford it. As for the infrastructure piece, we can definitely argue that one—I’m all for new nuclear power plants, but the left in recent times hasn’t been as for it, so that’s not helping. Also, the GOP says they’re for it, but doesn’t really do much to get it done. But are vehicles infrastructure? Do EV’s cause any significant benefit to reducing wear/tear on roads?

Dude, you can’t discuss EV’s and oil/gas vehicles and how one is better/worse and how one is going away/not going away without discussing the politics because it’s far from a free market. And worse, when I asked you why it was then needed for the government to interfere (incentives for EV’s and stricter regulation for oil and gas vehicles), your response is that humans aren’t good at making their own decisions. I have no doubt that technology will evolve/improve our lives since that has been going on since the beginning of humanity. However this notion that “humans can’t make their own decisions” means that the technology currently is not ready to stand on its own merit. The government is once again trying to pick winners and losers, and so your argument of how great something currently is doesn’t hold water because if it was then people would naturally be attracted to it without the interference. That all being said, I’m excited to see what the future brings wrt electric vehicles and when oil/gas engines have lost their place, then so be it. But let’s not pretend that this is happening on its own.

Solid post—thanks for the info.

I sometimes wonder if they actually believe what they’re saying.

Not interested when your response is “well, I know better than other people and that’s why”. And if EVs use different roads than what gasoline cars use, please let me know!

So you don’t trust people to make their own decisions and thus believe that decisions need to be made for them…as long as you like those decisions. Spoken like a true progressive and/or elitist. If EVs were so great they would sell themselves without taxpayer incentives. The left has sold out to the environmentalists and the Dems are now trying to spin their policies as actually being for fossil fuels even though you can’t swing a dead cat without easily finding evidence to the contrary.

So then why the need to provide monetary incentives for the electric car industry and only have further restrictive regulations on oil and traditional vehicles? I don’t recall the government making VCRs more restrictive to make the way for DVD players?

Oh supply vs demand always reigns supreme. But…it’s almost as if restrictive regulations also have a strong part in the game when it comes to production/prices. Hell, one of the leading contenders for the Dem’s 2020 nominee said he was against all new fracking and wanted to rapidly end existing fracking. Oh and he’s now the Transportation Secretary.

So your post was intentionally misleading. It’s almost as if the left is suddenly trying to make the argument that Biden and his policies are better for oil production than Trump was during his term. I guess that’s what happens when you have high inflation/gas soon to be over $5 a gallon and you’re trying to tell the American people that your policies are actually good for energy prices even though Biden and the left are literally on record saying how they want to drastically reduce fossil fuel production. I know you want to say this has nothing to do with politics, but the truth is that this has everything to do with politics. The high inflation wasn’t an accident…and originally the left was saying it was a good thing and not to worry because it was “transitory”. But hey, just go buy an electric car if you don’t like the high gas prices… https://nypost.com/2021/11/29/buttigieg-slammed-for-urging-electric-car-buying-to-counter-gas-prices/

Just curious as to why you think US oil production in 2019 was 12.29 millions of barrels per day but was only 11.18 in 2021 and is only forecasted to be 11.85 in 2022? I mean, if Biden is “Domestic Oil King 2024”, wouldn’t he so far have the highest year ever?

How it started… https://www.foxbusiness.com/politics/biden-energy-sec-granholm-laughs-boosting-oil-hilarious How it’s going… https://www.foxbusiness.com/politics/granholm-energy-executives-produce-more-russia-ukraine But yeah, it’s all Russia’s fault.

Paper from Stanford written in 2018 says about 10 years. No time like the present to start. https://large.stanford.edu/courses/2017/ph241/park-k2/

7.9% inflation and the House (with a majority of Republicans in favor) just passed a $1.5 trillion spending bill for just 6 or so months of federal spending. But yeah…it’s all about Russia/Ukraine, or something. Clearly things need to be a lot more painful here in the US before enough people agree that we need to stop the bleeding/adjust course.

If big blue hasn’t gotten it by now, they’re never going to get it. Stay in or get out…just do what’s best for you and your family and don’t expect a whole lot of positive changes.

I’m literally quoting the President… https://www.foxnews.com/media/biden-excoriated-twitter-insinuating-blocks-legislation-jim-crow-2-0

I’m much more concerned that you’re saying such positive things about a Nav… I kid I kid…but seriously 😉

Really? Progressives literally think that requiring an ID to vote is “Jim Crow 2.0”.

You really don’t think that Americans are ‘that’ short sighted? We’re impatient as hell and we agree on very little of the issues being made today in the political arena…and that’s probably mostly by design by the politicians on the left and the right, but it’s true all the same. One of the few things that cuts across the majority of Americans is the economy. The left is doubling down on “green energy” vs drilling more here at home and that argument might work during better economic times, but not when the economy isn’t doing so great. Again, even Biden knows this…he wants to not completely piss off his support from green energy folks, but he’s not willing to speed up political suicide by calling for less oil/higher prices than necessary at the pump. And asking Saudi Arabia (not really what I would call a strong democracy/proponent of freedom) to pump more is a joke. The argument that Americans will happily pay $6 a gallon of ask will destroy the left in November. Unfortunately the Republicans at the federal level haven’t been that great on doing what is necessary—cutting at home spending, cutting the military, increasing personal freedom. The situation in Ukraine, while horrible, is being mostly used as a distraction here in the US. Either Russia will lose/largely leave with their tail between their legs (doubtful, at least anytime soon) or Americans will become a lot less interested come this summer.

Give it a little time man. I remember when the vast majority were for invading Iraq, even after no WMDs were found (I was one of those back then btw). I also remember when the vast majority were for forcing businesses to close 2 years ago due to a virus that the vast majority of people would survive without even needing hospital care. When the recession hits, the vast majority will not be ok with $6+ a gallon.

Spin it however you need to man. If you think I’m immoral for not wanting the US to get involved with a war on the other side of the globe, then so be it.