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no phone calls wireless or otherwise from girlfriends/wives
...but if you're dumb enough to leave it on and have it ring, you better answer it and tell whoever is on the other line to go to the Class Six and pick you up a bottle.
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What are the steps taken to become an aggressor pilot in the viper? Do you need to be an IP and have x amount of hours in the jet? Also, after your first tour in the viper is it common to go back to luke and instruct or more common to go elsewhere (Preds, UPT IP, ect)? Thanks.
Here's a thread with a little info.
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My 19 yr old daughter is home from Indiana University and she read some of the things I said about Doc. Her response was "Dad, what if this guy commits suicide after reading all these comments?"
I can only hope. Seriously. He is about the only dude I can imagine who, when he dies/is ax-murdered, the overall will response will be "Good riddance."
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I've been thinking for some time that Baseops needs a greatest hits thread. You know like one of those stickies at the top that you can't post on.
This thread, CapSoftSandy, WxMan's phone taps, that fruit who told everyone he was asexual - man there has been some good shit on here over the years.
Well we can't sticky them all, but every so often when I find old threads, I put "Classic" in the title for ease of looking for them in the future (do an advanced search for 'classic' in titles only). There are only four or five of them that I've changed. The CapSoftSandy thread (very brief - most of his stuff was posted on SPN and/or removed from here) is here, and the thread that started the "Band of Degenerate Homosexuals" as well. If anybody has noms for classic threads, find the thread and PM me the link and I'll edit the title. If you can't find the thread, PM me the general subject matter and I'll try to find it.
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And to counter all of Old Crow's hot chicks...
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I'm using Vonage from PACAF. It looks, acts, smells like a regular phone. I pick up the reciever and for all intents and purposes its a Tucson dial tone. Anyone calling me dials my Tucson area number.
I'm looking into an overseas phone (USAFE) and have heard some good things about Vonage, but the only real international info on their website is geared towards making international calls, not receiving them. The only real info I got when I emailed them was that they cannot ship or bill to an overseas or APO address, so I have to get the phone before I depart.
So that being said - any updates or recent use with Vonage? Specifically -
1) How is the service/signal quality? If it's routed through your internet connection, you basically treat it like a house cordless phone, correct?
2) There are only one set of call rates on the website. Are the rates the same regardless of where you call from?
3) How is the customer service?
4) How does VOIP relate to your service (they mentioned checking VOIP laws on the new country)?
5) Anything else to add?
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I need some help. I am about to PCS and need to find the official documentation for when finance/TMO tells me I'm wrong.
My family is about to PCS without me (remote) and will fly out of an airport other than the closest to our home of record (which is on my orders) because we sold our house. I called TMO and they gave me the cost to fly from home-of-record airport (RDU) to the port of departure, which costs way more than the tickets I could buy on Southwest to get my family from the closest airport to the point of departure.
So....Does anybody know where in the JFTR (yes, I've scanned...can't find it) or any other AFI it dictates that that I can be reimbursed for buying my own tickets. Specifically - the fact that if I buy my own tickets at a rate less than the government rate, I can be reimbursed?
I know this can be done - I've done it 2-3 times before, I'd just like to have the 'rules' in hand this time so I can tell the dude at finance to choke himself when he tells me I won't get reimbursed.
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Most, telling, you'll note the bottom 8 awards are from Latin American militaries.
Copy Mexican General.
Will somebody please update Wikipedia?
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I know there's some program out there where APT LT's can go back to their det for like a week on TDY, when I was a junior some guys did it back at my det. I tried seaching around though and couldn't find out anything about it anywhere. Anyone know how to do it? (sts)
You can go back on what is called Permissive TDY. You don't get paid, but you don't get charged leave - I did it when I was waiting for pilot training. The reference is 36-3003.
You'll need to talk to your gaining unit and/or commander for approval.
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Thread related question.....any tips/lessons learned before you throw your vehicle on the bo-at?
If you ship through a military contractor, they will be Nazis about cleaning it - don't give them anything to call you on. I have shipped two cars to and from England without problem. My only suggestion would be to make sure you have all the paperwork when you show up to pick it up (in addition to the shipping papers - title, insurance, etc). I will say that when we shipped ours back from England, the idiots at the car port left it outside when a HURRICANE rolled through and it flooded the floor boards. F***nuts at the port of acceptance tried to write "a little water damage" on my receipt and I told him I wasn't taking the car until he wrote "floorboards are flooded," and then I went and got my camera and took a picture of the sidewalls that had debris halfway up the door where the stagnant water had reached during the storm
Also, the paper suggests to protect the undercarriage....thoughts on how to do this?Do they plan on dredging it through salt water?
That sounds f***ing retarded. You shouldn't have to protect the undercarriage of your vehicle.
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AIB complete, released by PA:
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Team Sheppard: Air Education and Training Command has released the following regarding the May 1, 2008 T-38C accident here at Sheppard:SHEPPARD T-38C ACCIDENT INVESTIGATION COMPLETE
RANDOLPH AIR FORCE BASE, Texas - The Air Force has completed its investigation of the May 1, 2008, T-38C Talon accident at Sheppard Air Force Base, Texas, which resulted in the deaths of two pilots and destroyed the airplane.
Maj. Brad T. Funk, a 90th Flying Training Squadron instructor pilot, and 2nd Lt. Alec F. Littler, a student pilot assigned to the 80th Operations Support Squadron, were flying a training mission simulating a single engine landing approach with a full fuel load with the intent to touch down on the Sheppard Air Force Base runway and then take off again. The T-38 landed short of the runway, causing debris from the overrun surface to enter the right engine and causing it to seize. Major Funk took command of the aircraft upon the short landing and advanced the throttle of the left engine to maximum power, and as the aircraft was climbing from the ground retracted the landing gear and the flaps. With the flaps retracted, the T-38 had insufficient power and airspeed to sustain lift and stalled.
With their T-38 in a fully developed stall 25 to 40 feet above the ground, the crew ejected from the aircraft. Their near simultaneous ejection caused contact between the two ejection seats and disrupted the direction and sequence of the ejection. Both were killed on impact with the ground.
The accident investigation board (AIB) determined the cause of this mishap was pilot error from the instructor pilot's failure to execute critical emergency procedures upon right engine failure. Specifically, the decision to retract the flaps rather than leaving them extended resulted in insufficient lift to sustain flight.
There were no other casualties from this mishap and other than the aircraft, there was no property damage.
Colonel Richard S. Haddad, 23rd Air Force, Hurlburt Field, Fla., headed the AIB.
Ejections seats collided...yikes.
RIP
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Google it man, it's on the internet
Yup.
Scanner Glossary; This glossary of code words and phrases used in radio transmissions around Area 51 may be useful if you monitor the airwaves.
spike - Aircraft has a RWR signal indication; opposite to NAKED: "Snake one threat BRA 240 for 48, 7000" "Snake two spike" (Snake one tells his wingman of threat and BRA and wingman (two) acknowledges indication of the threat on the RWR)notching - Flying through a gap (notch) in a mountain range -
Doc Foglesong (along with a lot of other AF leadership these days) embodies the Peter Principle.
The Peter Principle is the principle that "In a Hierarchy Every Employee Tends to Rise to His Level of Incompetence." It holds that in a hierarchy, members are promoted so long as they work competently. Sooner or later they are promoted to a position at which they are no longer competent (their "level of incompetence"), and there they remain. Peter's Corollary states that "in time, every post tends to be occupied by an employee who is incompetent to carry out his duties" and adds that "work is accomplished by those employees who have not yet reached their level of incompetence".How he got to USAFE/CC is beyond me, but we can thank the Peter Principle for not allowing our fears of Doc as Chief of Staff to come true.
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Makes no sense to me.
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I happened to role over to Wikipedia to check out his site and it would seem that some Baseopers have been taking great liberties. And I quote (before it gets removed)...
Foglesong attained the rank of four-star general (which was plagued with controversy) in the United States Air Force, retiring from active duty after 33 years of service.Attained 5th-level Duche-Mange with Firerod's and Dragon's Breath Staff COMPLETELY on his own.
Praise! He is loved
<<snip out news article from MSU detailing what an idiot he was as president>>
He is Praised!
"We did a search for ol' Doc's combat hours...our newest A1C load had more combat time...meaning any time"
He is Praised!
I wonder if the students at MSU will be as happy to see him go as all the folks in USAFE were. It sounds like Combat University didn't work out to well.
You guys are awesome.
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Fatal flaw with your reasoning.
I stand by my statement, but let me explain it. By "Shut up and color" I don't mean stand back and do nothing. I mean that you should work to change things at your appropriate level, but when you're squashed by the man, salute smartly and find the next item for you to fix. Take your small victories and progress to the next level.
As a Lt, don't accept the AFI paragraph that seems to have been put in place by a shoe clerk - put in an 847 and change it.
As a Capt, become a shop chief and shitcan all the stupid policies the previous Sq/CC put in place.
As a Maj, become an ADO and actually do something other than flying your bi-daily sortie and going home; bring the maintainers up the squadron to educate them on how Ops works.
As a LtCol, become a DO or CC. Let your troops wear LPA patches and Friday shirts to raise morale, and at the same time, work the stuff that matters like the screwed up flying program.
As a Col. you have made it. You are where we need you to be. Tell the idiots at finance that they're going to stop taking their daily two-hour training sessions and be in place to help us. Tell the idiots at MPF to open their doors before 0900 and leave them open until 1800 so the people who complete the mission of the military can actually get help. Kick the SFS SrA in the nuts when he writes your guys a speeding ticket for driving 12 mph in the parking lot at 1am.
Small victories, chip away at the stone.
Rage against the machine one reflector belt at a time.
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Wow.
And that, ladies and gentleman, is why this thread was started.
Tracy, if we ever meet in person, I've got your drinks all night.
More Doc hatin'.
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If you're a dude that doesn't mind things like being spun around, or even if you actually like being spun around from doing it in the past (like if you know how to focus on one immobile thing while you're being spun and prevent motion sickness that way), do dudes like that get airsick often or at all? Can someone mentally overcome the heat, the g-suit, the parachute underneath you, the shoulder straps and the helmet and think their way through airsickness?
Your body will decide. I have never been actively sick in an aircraft, but in my first ride in every aircraft (T-37, T-38, F-15), I have felt queasy. By the second ride, that was gone. IMHO, if you try to 'think your way' through airsickness, you'll be concentrating on it too much, and you'll make it worse.
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I was rather curious what you do with your head. Whether it is pointed straightforward during the spinning or do you tilt it down or sidewards, close your eyes, then they spin the chair, stop it and you raise your head. Or is it just simple spinning with your eyes opened, head upfront like in an office chair.
I only did it as a fam thing, so I don't know for sure, but if it was up to me I wouldn't move my cranium at all. Once you start spinning, moving your nugget around is just going to enhance the gyroscopic effect and make things worse.
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There are a lot of things that both my husband and I are freaking out over, it would just be comforting to know that there are people who have done it before without washing out!
Ditto Hoser. Wives of two guys in my UPT class had babies and plenty of students had kids while I was an IP at UPT. Realize that he's not going to be getting up in the middle of the night to change the diapers and you'll be fine.
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could you please tell me what exactly do you do on the Barany chair? What exercises etc...
You don't 'do' anything other than sit there while they spin you around until you get sick. Then they spin you some more. Then they spin you some more. The intent is to get your body accustomed to it.
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Let me expand on one of his "Combat" programs.
Most of Doc's combat programs were confined to Ramstein (poor, poor M2 and Linda). One of the programs that had MAJCOM reach was Combat Nighthawk. This 'pilot' (yes I use that term loosely) thought it would be a good idea to educate to general USAF populace about the the USAF role. Good in theory - right? Yeah man, send them to the ops squadrons, RAPCON, and MX to see how me do things?
Negatron.
Doc Douche-pump decided that it was critical to our mission to educate people on how things like the chow hall, hospital, and enlisted dorms worked. No shit. Even worse was the fact that (as the name suggested) it carried into the wee hours of the night and therefore killed aircrew's crew rest. It started at 1900 with 2 officers and 2 NCOs who would walk around the base and visit facilities like the chow hall, airman's dorms, SFS, and hospital. The schedule ended at 0000 and it didn't matter if you had been at work since 0600.
When I got tagged for this pleasure - as the SRO - I shitcanned the schedule and took my three visitors (Lt, MSgt, and SrA) to the tower (night flying), RAPCON, and flying squadrons to show them how the real AF operates. All of them learned more about the operational USAF in those three hours than Doc could have ever imparted in any lame AFN commercial.
When Doc dies, M2 and I are going to dig him up, burn his body in effigy ("Fuck that I say we burn him right here!") and kick the ashes into a cesspool.
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not trying to bitch, just looking for where things went/go wrong?
Long before you entered the Air Force. Shut up and color, make your way to the top, then change things.
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I heard about 6 or 7 absolutely outlandish stories. Can they really be true?
Not only yes, but hell yes. As the USAFE/CC, he was most famous (despised) for his anal-retentive quirks, his constantly played AFN commercials with him in his speed-jeans, and his "Combat" programs. The combat programs simply took regular things like cleaning up the base (Combat Proud) and checking out library books (Combat Read), and attempted to give them some sort of ridiculous warrior spin - all from a guy who had ZERO combat flight time. His decorations make him look like a shoe clerk's wet dream (nary an air medal to be found).
My personal favorite story is when he decided he wanted a front seat F-15E ride from one of the Lakenheath squadrons. Even though the guy was not allowed to fly his own jet (F-16) without an instructor in chase, and even though we have Senior Officer Courses that take at least a month to get GOs qualified, and even though everybody from the guy who gave him the flight (a highly experienced TPS grad SEFE) to the OG/CC thought it was a bad idea, nobody had the stones to tell him to screw off because of how he would surely react. Ironically, had something safety related happened on the flight, I believe everybody from the pilot up through and to Doc himself would have been fired.
There have been quite a few threads about him - generally with the "Why does everybody hate this guy?" question asked. So here are the links of what we've seen so far with a brief summary and some zinger quotes.
Doc to Get the Order of the Sword - Amidst speculation that votes were changed, discounted, or altered ("There actually was a vote on this thing among enlisted people and from what I heard when it happened they were "encouraged" to vote yes, but most voted no.") Doc received the highest honor bestowed by the enlisted corps. This while - almost literally - everybody in USAFE despised him.
"Hey the USAFE Command Chief is Gary Coleman!"
"Foglesong is a douche-bag of the highest order (and not the Order of the Sword, either) from everything that I've seen/heard. A sqdn-mate of mine said that when Fogey was his CC (don't remember when/what command) he put out a base-wide (command-wide?) order prohibiting cursing."
"We did a search for ol' Doc's combat hours...our newest A1C load had more combat time...meaning any time"
Another Doc 'F' story - Doc dresses up like Santa circa 2000 to greet people at MHAFB. He apparently did no coordination and went through the roof when SFS didn't recognize him. He likes to shut down active runways (DM and Ramstein) to jog on them.
He's a whack job.
Fogeldork
there's some sorta screw loose in this dude
Bye Bye Doc! - Article of Doc's replacement, and the future of sanity being restored to USAFE.
"He's earned a break from the combat rigors of being Combat Proud on the Combat Flightline, while driving all the USAFE personnel combat crazy and driving the combat budget into the combat red. I Combat Care deeply and am Combat Touched that he wants to start his own Project Wizard back home... perhaps he can attend some combat football games and start another Project Cheer!"
"It's official: Doc's a Douche."
Thanksgiving Day Message from Doc - Lame Turkey message to USAFE
Doc Foglesong can tongue my chode.
I, too, hope everyone enjoys their COMBAT TURKEY this Thanksgiving.
Doc can go eat a bowl of COMBAT DICK.
Fogelnuts, on the other hand, is a complete and utter asshole through and through, and the fact that the zero hours of combat assclown ever made it past major (much less to GO rank) typifies what is completely wrong about the USAF today.
FRE-E-DOM! - Doc finally leaves USAFE and there was much rejoicing
Ding! Dong! The asshole's gone!
Congrats, USAFE! Thanks for the memories and the enlarged Poop-Chute.
Eat a fat dick, Doc!
F*** off and die, Fogeldouche.
Say Goodbye to "Combat Bulldog" - After retiring from the USAF, Doc went to be the president of MSU. M2 put it best - "He was a prick at USAFE, and I am sure it all carried over to Miss State. Unfortunately, what he probably failed to realize was that there they could go tell him to 'fuck off!'"
I wonder if the students at MSU will be as happy to see him go as all the folks in USAFE were.
It sounds like Combat University didn't work out to well.
So, now everyone realizes he's crazy; always was, always will be.....
He's on Wikipedia - anybody can add to it. Maybe a link to this thread? 'Course, I'm sure he's got an exec to check the site daily for cyber-graffiti.
Here's to Doc
Go F*** yourself
I'm waiting for M2 to chime in ASAPly...
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