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Biggest difference is on the C-5, the weiner-mobile enters from the front. On the C-17, the weiner-mobile enters from the rear.

I think I found Spicoli Jr. (NSFW language) https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4Y7i1ASCS5o&feature=player_embedded EDIT: video was yanked due to copyright... this one should work

I don't know if it was this Air Force band or another one, but when we were deployed our PAIO asked them to play at our FOB. The funny thing is that when we told them they had to bring their body armor and weapons they responded with something along the lines of "well if we need weapons and body armor, then it's too dangerous for us there." The way I see it, if they're only here to support the troops, so long as it doesn't require them to 'rough it' in anything less than a 3 star hotel on a base safely out of harms way (and here I was, thinking they were in the military), then I think the money would be better spent on jet fuel. On top of that, have you ever met someone who said "gee, if it weren't for Tops in Blue I'd never have joined/stayed in the Air Force"? No? Do they travel to austere locations that WWF wrestlers, country singers, and B-List rock bands don't? Not in my experience. And how much do they cost again? Roughly xx personnel plus support staff who are perpetually TDY and burning up DTS, plus equipment maintenance, plus the cost in disruption to the mission and resources at bases where they perform, plus some other stuff I'm sure I'm missing... All I'm saying is that when you get poor, you gotta settle for basic cable.Edited for iPhone grammar

I'll do you one better and say it shouldn't be tracked at all. That would solve the all-too-real problem of the degree is masked at the board but everyone in the chain up to & including the Senior Rater sees it and racks & stacks accordingly.... It would also accomplish the "too hard to change back" goal you mention in support of eliminating TA, if the entire tracking mechanism is removed. Career fields that require a degree (doctors, lawyers, Indian chiefs, etc.) can still track it, much the same way that our flying quals are tracked. Why on earth we track AADs for non-AF or non-career-field specific degrees in the first place is beyond me....

Never heard of that website before now. Thanks for the good laughs.

I agree that housing is currently priced where the market will bear. AnimalMother is also correct that the market is sustained artifically high. No problem if you buy when the market is in that state, and sell again in the same state. The problem with buying a house in Clovis is that it is a huge gamble. There is absolutely no upside in buying a house in Clovis as far as housing appreciation goes (demand will never be higher), but there is a catastrophic downside if the status quo isn't maintained (I know the base isn't going anywhere anytime soon, but the Clovis market depends nearly solely on manning levels there, which are subject to change). That status quo is about to be upset by the fact that they are working to rebuild/renovate the portion of Chavez West base housing that was previously condemned. I've been removed from the situation for a while, so there may be more up-to-date gouge, but depending on how they roll out the new units there could be a massive shift in the market. There's enough buying in the market to keep prices strong at the moment. That's largely fueled by the fact that REASONABLE rentals are non-existant. You can either live in a dump on your BAH, or if you require a higher standard of living for your family, rent a single-family home for significantly more than a mortgage would run you. This leads a large portion of incoming families to buy against their will because they can't afford, or aren't willing to pay, extortionate rent prices. Give those families the option to move into NEW base housing units at the cost of BAH, and all of a sudden the buyers drop out of the market. My recollection is that its north of 600 units that will eventually be dumped on the market. 600 homes in a Clovis sized market is going to mean large losses for anybody who tries to sell while the market is correcting. And yes, homes do sell for the exorbitant prices that the market currently bears, but I can tell you that of all the families that I personally know who bought homes when they arrived in Clovis circa 2009, none of them has had an easy time selling at a breakeven level. Some are still holding their properties (going on 1yr) because they can't get an offer worth accepting. As far as watering holes go....there aren't any. The few places selling liquor are either not worth your time, or worth actively avoiding. More power to anybody who wants to open a decent bar, it's desperately needed, but I can say that you'd be among hundreds that arrived in Clovis with the same grand plans. Nothing has materialized, and there's a reason for it.

I guess that could be true, if you think of airplanes as a person to make you a sandwich or get you a beer. As for the OP: If you want to either a) deploy to some shithole for 4 months at a pop and fly to the same auxiliary shitholes every other day, or b) get used like TACC's little bitch with 17 hour ground times between 24 hour days for 10 days at a time, go fly the Barney. If you want to move more cargo, faster, and then get to enjoy your crew rest, without spending more than 2 days a month in Afcrapistan getting chiefed, fly Fred. And oh, BTW, you make more money broken in Rota, Ramstein, or Hickam than 3.50/day at any "undisclosed" location.

WOW a whole 315k? That's cute........

At the "risk" of keeping this thread bumped, I'll chuckle and add- I'm not sure how the tanker thing got so easy or hard or the C-17 so overtaxed that we'd train the Boomer/LM to read an approach plate. NOT saying there isn't the time and the place, but there SHOULD not be the need to go to a training course. 8th deployment and looking for something new to learn? OK. I've spent plenty of time sweating and freezing downstairs working on the GROUND with the LMs and load teams, WHEN it made sense. Doesn't mean I needed or wanted to be trained. In flight you may have 0 pax, 1, 39, 41, 169. Different loads, rules and LMs make too many variables to standardize a LM chart reader. But, like all bad ideas, it keeps coming back each new generation. Then comes the indignant end-around to still try and have it pushed. At least in crew cockpit jets- If 2 pilots can't fly IMC, non-radar, to Mins or a missed with an engine out, anywhere in the world, anytime in a duty period, not hit something, find the right airport and leave the jet in a reuseable condition without a Class-something, you're doing something wrong as a culture, not an MDS/MAJCOM/pissing contest stratification inserted here... I'll show a LM how to read a low level chart, just as an appreciation. I'll let them up during flight- some get it, some could fly it, some don't want to be near it. Should I have them mission plan it and brief the turns? Night? NVG? IMC? Really? Kind of like an approach plate. Same skin in the game. Lots of words to say good intent, hard to apply. The rest of the post cracks me up. This is why I like letting little kids ride in the cockpit if I have open seats. No cameras/youtube/feeds/blogs/etc for them to go post on, just an impression to be taken-in.

You're not partying hard enough, my friend.

So the solution is ban cars and "High capacity" pill containers. Nobody needs more than 10!

I did research on the place in MS and then a friend recommended the guy in Boston. The fact that you can do it in one day and only one flight and no military pilot has ever failed the ride was enough for me. Just trying to help out my military bros looking for the most simple, easy low threat option. The last thing you want showing up to the airlines is a pink slip from a busted ATP ride.

OSA CONUS locations include: Peterson AFB (C-21), Andrews AFB (C-21), Scott AFB (C-21, C-40), and MacDill AFB (C-37) OSA OCONUS locations include: Hickam AFB (C-37, C-40), Yokota AB (C-12), Elmendorf AFB (C-12), and Ramstein AB (C-21, C-20, C-37, C-40) (from mypers)