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Hello, so first and foremost I apologize if this post is in the wrong thread. I’ve been looking around and haven’t found anything to specifically answer my questions. I’ve been browsing the Air Force subreddit, posted a lot on there in regards on advice and guidance in general. A pilot (civilian who’s trying to join the ang) told me about this website so I thought I’d give it a shot.

 

Alright so some background info, as the title suggests I’m currently active duty. 20 years old, based in macdill with the stratotanker. Maintainer, I joined with zero college, almost done with my cdcs so I can start working on my associates. This is where it starts to get a little hairy for me. I’ve spoken with a captain about two or three scholarships the Air Force offers for Rotc. 

 

My hopes are to get accepted into these programs and further my education full time and get my ppl to increase my pcsm. Also to have a high gpa and commanders ranking obviously.  Now where things get confusing to me is I keep hearing to go ang or reserve. And I was hoping to get some more advice on that, not only that but advice on what choices to make now and what steps to take.

 

I read that macdill also has a guard unit, I went to a briefing on palace chase and palace front which is essentially a program to join guard either 2 years before your contract is up or when your re-enlistment date comes around. So if for some reason I don’t get accepted into these scholarships does that seem like a feasible option? If so do I join with my associates and go to college full time (Rotc) and also be in the guard? Is that something you’re able to do? Financially is this do able? I’m married FYI.

 

Well I can go on and on about this, I have a lot of anxiety when it comes to figuring all of this out, it’s something I love doing. Flying is something I enjoy and am hoping to make the most out of my career. It just seems like something that’s out of my reach, which is strange because of all the routes I see. In a sense the more research I do the more unsure I am about WHAT to do. 

 

So thanks for reading this short essay on how confused I am, I’m hoping I can get some clarity from people who either A. Have done it or B. Know how it’s done. Again thanks for taking the time to read.

 

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Not sure what others experiences have been, but I think all the ROTC cadets end up active duty and don't have the option of the Guard/Reserve route.  Can any previous ROTC guys confirm or deny this?

There are a ton of benefits to being Guard or Reserve.  You will just have to dig through these forums and read all about them and make the decision of whether that is the best decision for your family.  There's too much info for one post so enjoy reading.

It's good that you are asking questions and taking charge of your career.  Good luck with your journey man. 

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active duty seems like the best option right now for me, I could see guard/ reserve working out if I get out after four years and do college full time and then apply for guard units. With a ppl in hand and everything, however what are the chances of that working out? Like I said I’m pretty young still so I can really go either way. I just don’t want to miss out on the Rotc opportunity only to get out and try to get slot through reserve and not be able to. 

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3 hours ago, Lyonconner said:

Hello, so first and foremost I apologize if this post is in the wrong thread. I’ve been looking around and haven’t found anything to specifically answer my questions. I’ve been browsing the Air Force subreddit, posted a lot on there in regards on advice and guidance in general. A pilot (civilian who’s trying to join the ang) told me about this website so I thought I’d give it a shot.

Alright so some background info, as the title suggests I’m currently active duty. 20 years old, based in macdill with the stratotanker. Maintainer, I joined with zero college, almost done with my cdcs so I can start working on my associates. This is where it starts to get a little hairy for me. I’ve spoken with a captain about two or three scholarships the Air Force offers for Rotc.

My hopes are to get accepted into these programs and further my education full time and get my ppl to increase my pcsm. Also to have a high gpa and commanders ranking obviously.  Now where things get confusing to me is I keep hearing to go ang or reserve. And I was hoping to get some more advice on that, not only that but advice on what choices to make now and what steps to take.

I read that macdill also has a guard unit, I went to a briefing on palace chase and palace front which is essentially a program to join guard either 2 years before your contract is up or when your re-enlistment date comes around. So if for some reason I don’t get accepted into these scholarships does that seem like a feasible option? If so do I join with my associates and go to college full time (Rotc) and also be in the guard? Is that something you’re able to do? Financially is this do able? I’m married FYI.  

Well I can go on and on about this, I have a lot of anxiety when it comes to figuring all of this out, it’s something I love doing. Flying is something I enjoy and am hoping to make the most out of my career. It just seems like something that’s out of my reach, which is strange because of all the routes I see. In a sense the more research I do the more unsure I am about WHAT to do.

So thanks for reading this short essay on how confused I am, I’m hoping I can get some clarity from people who either A. Have done it or B. Know how it’s done. Again thanks for taking the time to read.

 

I have a thread or 2 on the same topic here but let me share what i know so far.

If you get a scholarship with ROTC, you are contracted therefore you have to get out of the guard. (My situation) You can end up commissioning into a guard or reserve unit from ROTC only if you get 'hired' by a unit and get sponsored to go through UPT.  You have some time to figure things out. ROTC might not have a 2 year program for you, it's usually a full 3 or 4 but you can contact them at your local college to find out. They should give you plenty of information

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A memo was just released to enable one and two year programs again at certain schools. Three year would be easy at almost every university. You can go rated reserves out of ROTC, not sure about ANG. Scholarships are mostly for STEM majors.

Prior E dudes usually do better than most others in the program and a pilot slot is pretty easy to obtain. Contact schools you’re interested in/would move to and ask the Detachment.

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If you are worried about a full time job, I know plenty of ANG units where Lts back from UPT are full time ARTs making just as much as I am. The old part time Guardsman is a thing of the past...

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12 hours ago, JustHangingOut said:

Not sure what others experiences have been, but I think all the ROTC cadets end up active duty and don't have the option of the Guard/Reserve route.  Can any previous ROTC guys confirm or deny this?

There are a ton of benefits to being Guard or Reserve.  You will just have to dig through these forums and read all about them and make the decision of whether that is the best decision for your family.  There's too much info for one post so enjoy reading.

It's good that you are asking questions and taking charge of your career.  Good luck with your journey man. 

I ran into three people who are in ROTC saying there is a program or option that isnt talked about much for people to go from ROTC to Reserve/ANG. I am not sure on how it works but the vibe I got is that they essentially get hired before they graduate. 

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