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I'll call myself a CSO when the T.O. title becomes "Combat Systems Officer's Manual", not "Weapons Systems Officer's Manual".

If there was a "mission" they inspired me to do, it would be to run for Congress so I could ensure their funding was cut. Permanently.

Ditto. I'd much rather have a gaggle of veterans sing the National Anthem than this group. Give me some Army guys sporting deployment patches and CIBs on their ACUs, some pilots with combat time, some Navy SeaBee's or EOD's, some PJs/TAC-Ps/CCTs/CROs/STOs or any Air Force job that requires an acronym and a beret to describe, and any Marine with sand on their boots. I don't want to see some excruciatingly choreographed GAY routine. Give me something real please.

HOW TO WIN AT UPT: 1. DONT STUDY ON SATURDAYS 2. SOUND COOL ON THE RADIO

Gents, here's the point. The PT test is a standard. It is a standard in the AF, as it is in every other service in every other military in the world. While there may be some bafoonery being executed by the FACs, that is not an excuse to perform piss poor on the PT test. Trust me, nobody admires you if you barely pass your PT test, regardless of what you read on here. Sister service members do not admire that, and neither do coalition partners. If the FAC is bafooning your score, roll in your commander. Saying that you don't need to excel on the test because of your "job" is a cop-out. A Pakistani helo pilot probably doesn't need to run a 6 minute mile for two miles. An Army heavy brigade commander probably doesn't need to run a 6 minute mile for two miles. A Marine Harrier pilot probably doesn't need to run a 6 minute mile for two miles. But if they are all doing that, and the USAF dude is complaining about the USAF PT test, it is difficult for them to put that into perspective. I get it, the USAF probably could do without a PT test. But think bigger than that. Strive to do the best you can, and if the FAC is clowning up, get your CC involved. It is a standard that is inherent in every military, and has been for several years prior to any of us joining the service. Be the guy or gal that people look at and say yea, you smoked the standards. There will be more of those folks, believe it or not, than the folks that are listening to you complain about the PT test. If you min run the PT test, most folks will not sympathize with the "my job doesn't require that" argument. Most folks will wonder why you are min running the standard, and your rep will come into question. And it gets worse with the more rank you have and the further you wander from tactical operations in a USAF squadron. That's my two cents on that, I know a lot of you disagree. I've read the Deid thread, and yes, there are a lot of rules that are lunacy. The difference, in my opinion, is that the lunacy rules are pretty much viewed the same way universally. But if you min run a USAF PT test, and complain about it....there isn't going to be much sympathy outside of your flight or maybe squadron. Doesn't matter if you are a pilot or a door kicker, an American or a New Zealander.