FallingOsh Posted September 7, 2005 Share Posted September 7, 2005 I started sport skydiving a couple of years ago after completing Freefall at USAFA. I know you can jump on active duty if you watch a hazardous activities brief or somethings like that, but does anyone know if it's allowed during UPT? Preciate it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest KoolKat Posted September 7, 2005 Share Posted September 7, 2005 There seems to be (at least at Corpus) a large ORM kick... A decent list of things are not allowed, skydiving included, and you must also fill out an ORM worksheet if you want to take a dump. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest PalmettoGuy Posted September 8, 2005 Share Posted September 8, 2005 Anyone know how they feel about whitewater kayaking? Thanks Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest KoolKat Posted September 8, 2005 Share Posted September 8, 2005 Is that more dangerous than taking a dump? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DC Posted September 8, 2005 Share Posted September 8, 2005 the ORM kick must be a NETC thing because its crazy at pcola and whiting lately too.. same list, obviously. whitewater kayaking wasn't on the do-not-do list.. but it was a navy list. i doubt the air force is less strict than the navy, though. in the navy, safety isn't paramount at all. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest marbalizer99 Posted September 8, 2005 Share Posted September 8, 2005 What's the deal with skydiving while in ROTC? I started skydiving last year an am a couple jumps from getting my license. I had no idea about the restrictions, where can I see a list of them? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest KoolKat Posted September 8, 2005 Share Posted September 8, 2005 ROTC doesn't equal UPT. You'll be allowed to do plenty of stupid things while your in ROTC...Force Shaping at it's purest. Enjoy. [ 07. September 2005, 20:16: Message edited by: Bender ] Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FallingOsh Posted September 8, 2005 Author Share Posted September 8, 2005 There aren't any restrictions in ROTC according to my cadre. How many jumps do you have? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BONE Co-driver Posted September 8, 2005 Share Posted September 8, 2005 I knew a guy at XL about a year ago that was on the Wings of Blue team at the zoo and he jumped in UPT quite a few times. It may have been a unique case, however. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest ptwob179 Posted September 8, 2005 Share Posted September 8, 2005 Yeah, as I understood it, at least 3 years ago at columbus it was a don't ask, don't tell, but I was young and stupid then- I don't recommend risking anything over a few jumps- ask first. I am sure you will have plenty of time to jump after UPT. -Blue Skies Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest KoolKat Posted September 8, 2005 Share Posted September 8, 2005 "-Blue Skies " ??? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest ptwob179 Posted September 8, 2005 Share Posted September 8, 2005 just an old skydiver addage...any WOBs out there to back me up? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bergman Posted September 8, 2005 Share Posted September 8, 2005 Is skydiving worth a potentially disqualifying injury while in UPT? It would really suck to finally get to UPT, break an ankle jumping on the weekend, and wash back/out because of it. The leadership at your UPT base will probably hassle you about this as well (beyond just filling out the forms) - much like the motorcycle rider witch hunts. Keep your priorities straight. UPT is a year. You can jump out of airplanes after that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HerkDerka Posted September 8, 2005 Share Posted September 8, 2005 I'd like to know what the hell is going on in UPT where guys have time to sky dive, iron flight suits, and watch Iron Eagle repeatedly. HD Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest RJacobs Posted September 8, 2005 Share Posted September 8, 2005 ^^^^^^^ Not that I know from first hand knowledge at all, but it is the end of the fiscal year isnt it. They gotta find something to do with all that time not flying right. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JS Posted September 8, 2005 Share Posted September 8, 2005 Originally posted by HerkDriver24: I'd like to know what the hell is going on in UPT where guys have time to sky dive, iron flight suits, and watch Iron Eagle repeatedly. HD The way I was able to free up a TON of time at UPT was to track into the T-1 program after Tweets. Besides, skydiving doesn't really take as much time as it may appear in the movies. I jumped twice (before UPT) and each one was over in like 5 minutes. Plenty of time at UPT for that. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FallingOsh Posted September 8, 2005 Author Share Posted September 8, 2005 Yeah a jump usually takes less than ten minutes counting the plane ride up. But it takes about an hour to repack your chute, manifest the next jump, wait for your plane... blah blah. On top of all that, most people drive an hour or more to the nearest DZ. I can understand how there wouldn't be time for it during UPT. Bergman makes a good point about not wanting to break an ankle during UPT, but getting hurt after UPT or anytime in your carreer isn't any different. You wouldn't be dropped out of the Air Force, but you would still be forced to sit on your ass for several weeks not flying. I guess the real question is how important is skydiving to me and are the good times worth the possibility of injury. I can't imagine not being in the sport. It's the only thing that gets me through the week most times. We'll see what happens. Blue Skies is just something jumpers say. Like in theater people say Break A Leg, but saying that in skydiving just doesn't fit. [ 08. September 2005, 03:34: Message edited by: FallingOsh ] Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Paradise Found Posted September 8, 2005 Share Posted September 8, 2005 My husband is a WOB. He didn't jump during UPT, but he has definitely made up for that since then. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Rainman A-10 Posted September 8, 2005 Share Posted September 8, 2005 Originally posted by HerkDriver24: I'd like to know what the hell is going on in UPT where guys have time to sky dive, iron flight suits, and watch Iron Eagle repeatedly. HD Shack. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hacker Posted September 8, 2005 Share Posted September 8, 2005 Originally posted by Rainman A-10: Shack. I dunno, this part cleared that question up for me: The way I was able to free up a TON of time at UPT was to track into the T-1 program after Tweets.Reference also the thread from a few weeks ago discussing current UPT washout rates, which are reportedly in the 1-3% range in FY05. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TacAirCoug Posted September 8, 2005 Share Posted September 8, 2005 Originally posted by FallingOsh: Bergman makes a good point about not wanting to break an ankle during UPT, but getting hurt after UPT or anytime in your carreer isn't any different. You wouldn't be dropped out of the Air Force, but you would still be forced to sit on your ass for several weeks not flying.With all the force shaping going on right now, do you really want to put money on that? Get your priorities straight, man...hit the books now, jump after you graduate. Side note: Being a T-1 guy doesn't give you license to be a slack ass. [ 08. September 2005, 08:36: Message edited by: TacAirCoug ] Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FallingOsh Posted September 8, 2005 Author Share Posted September 8, 2005 I'm not a T-1 track, nor am I in UPT, nor did I say I was going to jump during UPT. My question was is it allowed. And don't you worry about my priorities, Mom. Skydiving is a hobby, not my career. [ 08. September 2005, 09:55: Message edited by: FallingOsh ] Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Flare Posted September 8, 2005 Share Posted September 8, 2005 At ENJJPT, as long as you sign the high-risk activities form, you can skydive whenever you want. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TacAirCoug Posted September 8, 2005 Share Posted September 8, 2005 Originally posted by FallingOsh: I'm not a T-1 trackThe T-1 comment wasn't directed at anyone in particular, just a statement... Originally posted by FallingOsh: And don't you worry about my priorities, Mom. Skydiving is a hobby, not my career. That's fine, I'm just pointing out that there are potentially serious consequences to think about, and finding another hobby for a year doesn't mean the end of the world. There are other, more important things to worry about. You do whatever you want...you know where I stand. Mom Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Champ Kind Posted September 8, 2005 Share Posted September 8, 2005 Originally posted by FallingOsh: And don't you worry about my priorities, Mom. Skydiving is a hobby, not my career. Wow, another Newbie that asks a question, gets honest responses, then gets an attitude.... Go figure. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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