Clark Griswold Posted February 13, 2022 Author Share Posted February 13, 2022 Yep, better platform than a light fighter is required for things like this + power + real estate on the aircraft for apertures/radio connectivity. I agree 100%.CoolTo expand further it would be one of several new / repurposed platforms that could perform the UCAV Tactical Coordinator MissionManned Light Fighter Manned C2 - Sensor High FlyerKC-46 / E-7 additional capability Manned Rotary Wing platform with this capability If this is a capability to be performed by different platforms at different times and different conditions then a common pod based cape with a common software for platforms like light fighter and tanker with the C2 platforms having it organic and likely in a more robust form as I see it as part of their primary mission sets, the former platforms it would be a alternate mission set but that is just a thought with no testing / real analysis. If implemented it could be the optimal solution is very different.Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
brabus Posted February 13, 2022 Share Posted February 13, 2022 On 2/12/2022 at 8:47 AM, 12xu2a3x3 said: assume he's referring to the capability to interfere with links with respect to the platforms being unmanned and i agree Yeah I figured...there's more to it than that, and there's very good reasoning for unmanned/manned teaming in certain aspects of future war. Don't think in today's tech, think tomorrow's tech...which clearly is a rhetorical process in this forum. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Clark Griswold Posted November 12, 2023 Author Share Posted November 12, 2023 Trainer / Light fighters in the news... https://www.thedrive.com/the-war-zone/t-7-arrives-at-edwards-usaf-eyeing-light-fighter-version#:~:text=T-7 Arrives At Edwards%2C USAF Eyeing Light Fighter Version and from SK... KAI Charts Out Single-Seat FA-50 Road Map | Aviation Week Network F-7 concept art... New FA-50 concept... From The WZ article: "What is clear is that we can't afford to police the Super Bowl with an F-22," the same individual told Jennings in Madrid. Price and allies needing cheaper iron that will integrate well with all their other systems... this should be driving this idea higher on the AF to do list. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Danger41 Posted November 12, 2023 Share Posted November 12, 2023 This type of thing absolutely needs to happen so we don’t fly the wings off of the F-35’s, B-21’s, and NGAD’s when we get involved in Afghanistan 2.0 in ten years. Won’t happen, but should. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Clark Griswold Posted November 12, 2023 Author Share Posted November 12, 2023 This type of thing absolutely needs to happen so we don’t fly the wings off of the F-35’s, B-21’s, and NGAD’s when we get involved in Afghanistan 2.0 in ten years. Won’t happen, but should.Concur but one can still argue on BO for it and other lost causes…Light capabilities in general are needed for MOOTW (dating myself with that term but it captures a lot of what we do now and likely in the future)Light air mobility, light fighter, low footprint high endurance RPA, ACE light logistics, etc… just my retired guard bubba cents but this could doctrinally fit into the Guard or AFSOC (sts) with the right leadership seeing that we will be deterring and occasionally fighting in places other than the SCS against the forces of chaos with capes that require not a sledgehammer but a small hammer Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Danger41 Posted November 12, 2023 Share Posted November 12, 2023 1 hour ago, Clark Griswold said: Concur but one can still argue on BO for it and other lost causes… Light capabilities in general are needed for MOOTW (dating myself with that term but it captures a lot of what we do now and likely in the future) Light air mobility, light fighter, low footprint high endurance RPA, ACE light logistics, etc… just my retired guard bubba cents but this could doctrinally fit into the Guard or AFSOC (sts) with the right leadership seeing that we will be deterring and occasionally fighting in places other than the SCS against the forces of chaos with capes that require not a sledgehammer but a small hammer Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk I was thinking the exact same thing for AFSOC. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Clark Griswold Posted November 12, 2023 Author Share Posted November 12, 2023 I was thinking the exact same thing for AFSOC. Yup, one could argue this is what the USMC is supposed to do (small wars as historically these things were called) but as they are pivoting to a different force structure and as most operations are joint this is where the USAF could take the lead and build a light AF to integrate with the other components light forcesAs the unnamed official in the quote expressed, we can’t afford to fly exquisite iron on routine missions It’s the requirements using history and a sober assessment of likely missions as a guide to build out this collection of platforms & systems X amount of pallets per day between FOBs, X amount of CAPs when supporting a stabilization force of X size, etc… these missions would overlap with other NG and ANG missions Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Clark Griswold Posted November 13, 2023 Author Share Posted November 13, 2023 (edited) More on light fighters, Indian industry concept: https://www.ainonline.com/aviation-news/defense/2023-02-20/hindustan-aeronautics-unveils-lead-fighter-trainer-project Sounds kinda like the F-20 or the Textron Scorpion as there’s no IAF requirement or RFP but Hindustan Aeronautics sees a market opportunity Edited November 13, 2023 by Clark Griswold Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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