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19 hours ago, tac airlifter said:

 Then change aircraft. Learn new things, have new challenges.  

Is this common? Seems to be more and more impossible in most communities Ive been around. 

To clarify, I know about white jets/RPAs, but I mean making an MWS change seems like a rare thing to me outside of selective programs. 

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2 hours ago, FLEA said:

Is this common? Seems to be more and more impossible in most communities Ive been around. 

To clarify, I know about white jets/RPAs, but I mean making an MWS change seems like a rare thing to me outside of selective programs. 

I’m currently in IQT for my 3rd MWS, and there was a trainer tour in there too, and I’m at 14 years of service.  Yes, it’s still totally possible, just takes effort, and the performance to justify being advocated for.  Certainly keeps things interesting, and I’m still a happy camper.  Give it a shot if it will keep your cynicism needle off the peg.  That was my motivation.

I've been in the same MWS for 10 years and have experienced/accomplished new things the entire time. At least in the fighter world, if you've "done everything" in a few years, you're lying to yourself.

I tried leaving my MWS after white jets, asked for literally any 11M plane, including KC-135s to McConnell.

Denied by my functional, who said, circa late 2015: "KC-135s are overmanned. You are an ACC asset, expect RTB back to Offutt."

As for when studs become disillusioned, I seem to remember most were saying they don't plan on a career, but aren't going to bail unless they're unhappy. No one openly talked about doing 20, it was more like "I'll see what comes my way." 

 

 

Leave my MWS?  I can't even leave my base.  FTU is 50% manned.  I'll probably be here until I retire.

13 hours ago, FLEA said:

Is this common? Seems to be more and more impossible in most communities Ive been around. 

To clarify, I know about white jets/RPAs, but I mean making an MWS change seems like a rare thing to me outside of selective programs. 

Like so many things timing is huge. They may tell you it’s impossible and 12-18 months later it’s a different story. Stick to your guns, fight for it, and get your CC on your side. I’ve seen plenty of folks do it over the years 

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