Special Forces.

Originally posted by Karl:

My friends dad reenlisted so that he could play base for the Air Force. hahaha

Don't you mean "bass"? Trust me, if there's anyone who should know about using the right word, it's me!

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is CRO the only special ops program? or what other ones are there? Can someone shed some light on that for me?

You can also be a Combat Control Officer as well.

Originally posted by scoobs:

Special Forces.

The USAF doesn't have Special Forces...unless you mean 'SF' as in 'sky cops.' The USAF has Special Ops...the Army has real SF.

Cheers! M2

Combat WX; most of the guys get to jump and do some pretty "hands on" stuff.

Originally posted by PhlashNU04:

If that turns out to be true, I wonder what the new euphemism would be for "snack-o"...

I enjoyed being a MX officer, pretty rewarding if you like airplanes and getting your hands dirty every now and then (no you're not required to, but it helps).

My brother is a security forces Lt and loves it.

Originally posted by HeloDude:

OSI. You're a federal agent and you get to carry a gun with you wherever you go, even when you're not on duty.

I would agree here. Plus no one ever knows your rank.

Originally posted by zrooster99:

My brother is a security forces Lt and loves it.

I've read that sucks. Guess it's alright if you don't get sent to Minot or Malmstrom (as most of them do).

The officer side of CCT is STO...Special Tactics Officer.

Originally posted by HeloDude:

CRO's are not actually PJ's, nor do they possess all they training that PJ's have. I recently found out that they won't even go out on actual CSAR missions, they'll basically just run the show from the CP.

That's funny how I've deployed CRO's out of the back of my bird before then. Maybe they just didn't tell whoever it was that said they're not actually supposed to do anything operationally. I'm not saying that is a standard thing, but they do get to do their job every now and again.

They get almost all the training the PJ's get, and what's more they're the only dudes a PJ will listen to without harassing him. CRO is definitely the job I'd take were I not able to fly.

I'd be an ALO. Hike a few miles in the desert with the company of the ever friendly Special Forces, SEALs and Force Recon dudes, then call in some snake and nape. Hike back out. Full day of fun in the sun right there.

(as most of them do).

What?! Some do, not most. Almost every AF base has Security Forces...though my brother is due to PCS soon and according to him the only options he had for a 2Lt were Korea, Saudi, or a 1 year to Iraq.

CRO go through the same school house that PJs do, training beyond that is unit specific. And in my experience, you're wrong in that CROs do everything PJs do. They do end up being the guy in charge on the ground vs. actually sticking people, but they're just as qualified as the PJs.

my order would be

CRO

CCT/STO

COMBAT WX/COMBAT COMM (tied)

MX

whatever

my first choices are all tip of the spear types, then you get into MX, which is probably the most leadership intensive careerfield out there.

[ 02. February 2006, 19:41: Message edited by: busdriver ]

how hard is it to get all these jobs out of rotc?

ABM.. they have the coolest job in the entire AF.

*blip*

Originally posted by war007afa:

Don't you mean "bass"? Trust me, if there's anyone who should know about using the right word, it's me!

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CROs go through the same pipeline as enlisted PJs except they don't get as much medical training. Everything else is the same.

[ 03. February 2006, 00:24: Message edited by: backseatdriver ]

Originally posted by ShortThrow:

is CRO the only special ops program? or what other ones are there? Can someone shed some light on that for me?

www.specialtactics.com <- their version of baseops

Nav/EWO? (I never say anything nice about them so I feel like I have to make amends)

I was just in the shitter reading a good article from Air Force magazine that includes some of the better non-pilot officer jobs out there...

The Ground Warriors of Airpower

Cheers! M2

Originally posted by war007afa:

Nav/EWO? (I never say anything nice about them so I feel like I have to make amends)

Hey Co, how's that airspeed and altitude looking?

Wow that pj cro stuff looks super intense. I'm not sure if I could physically be able to perform those tasks, even if I trained for ever. 1500 meter swim in 30 minutes? WTF???

you can use fins.

and does anybody know how hard it is to get CRO out of rotc?

[ 03. February 2006, 16:58: Message edited by: waxgoblin ]