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Impressive....I thought they would at least push them out before the fy15 vsp window opened....guess that was asking way too much

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And what's at the end of next week? Memorial Day weekend. Afpc will for shizzle push it off to the week after. Here's to another 7 days of anxiety!!!

And what's at the end of next week? Memorial Day weekend. Afpc will for shizzle push it off to the week after. Here's to another 7 days of anxiety!!!

Don't worry, you can apply for round 2 of VSP that opens next Thursday. Oh wait...

TFSC hold music is pretty awesome at least...

Now after just getting off the phone with them, my understanding from TFSC is that for the officers, there's a hangup at Air Staff, and no timeline.

Take that for what it's worth - it may not be worth much.

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TFSC hold music is pretty awesome at least...

Now after just getting off the phone with them, my understanding from TFSC is that for the officers, there's a hangup at Air Staff, and no timeline.

Take that for what it's worth - it may not be worth much.

The most appropriate song would be Hotel California

I'm sure the hang up is them digging into who is currently where doing what job. I knew it was too good to believe they would only take into account core AFSC.

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But I thought the CSAF wanted this to be as fair as possible. Considering they already processed their first batch, approving 380 officers without blinking an eye at the who/where aspect, that wouldn't be "fair" to the rest of us VSPers now would it?

But I thought the CSAF wanted this to be as fair as possible. Considering they already processed their first batch, approving 380 officers without blinking an eye at the who/where aspect, that wouldn't be "fair" to the rest of us VSPers now would it?

Based on that logic, shouldnt everybody in the AF remain eligible and no year groups should close out? What if an 11F wants to separate? Is it unfair that AF needs dictates they are ineligible? Same with location. Why should an 11M manning a critical billet be released when they can just release one in a non-critical/overmanned billet and save backfill PCS costs? Luckily for all applicants, AFPC probably isnt this smart to look this deeply into it.

So I noticed in the latest pulse that it talks about VSP recoupment in the intro but then fails to mention any thing about it later on in the article. My leadership did say the separations chief mentioned they were working with Air Staff on the applications (talk about micromanagement). I suspect the holdup has something to do with the recoupment decisions for educational benefits e.g. medical school, graduate school, and education with industry. The last update to the PSDM said they were waiting on a decisions from HAF for recoupment. Why this would hold everyone else up is beyond me.

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Based on that logic, shouldnt everybody in the AF remain eligible and no year groups should close out? What if an 11F wants to separate? Is it unfair that AF needs dictates they are ineligible? Same with location. Why should an 11M manning a critical billet be released when they can just release one in a non-critical/overmanned billet and save backfill PCS costs? Luckily for all applicants, AFPC probably isnt this smart to look this deeply into it.

Let's hope they aren't that smart. At my base they could just PCA a few folks around and be good to go.

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Fantastic article! Forward this to your families, friends, news organizations, congressmen, etc. it's time for a congressional investigation into this nonsense. Thank you TC for being a discernible voice among us.

Fantastic article! Forward this to your families, friends, news organizations, congressmen, etc. it's time for a congressional investigation into this nonsense. Thank you TC for being a discernible voice among us.

It would be nice if we didn't have to go outside the service to address the concerns of those within it. Is this what our organization has become? Thousands of officers and enlisted troops can't get resolution or straight answers on a 5-month program until T.C. updates his blog? I really appreciate what he writes and the attention it brings to our situation; I'm just disappointed our organization is either incapable or unwilling to address this internally. Perhaps this feeling of isolation is why so many of us want out.

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It was brought up internally - to the CSAF directly when he visited Altus two months ago. He feigned concern, made a phone call or two, and what did we get? "The Pulse" which is AFPC's way of being transparent. Thanks, General Welsh. You really nipped that one in the bud.

It was brought up internally - to the CSAF directly when he visited Altus two months ago. He feigned concern, made a phone call or two, and what did we get? "The Pulse" which is AFPC's way of being transparent. Thanks, General Welsh. You really nipped that one in the bud.

But... he gave a great speech at the academy this one time! He wrote a letter to USAFE fighter pilots! He got rid of Blues Monday... sorta!

All sarcasm aside, if he won't un-fuck this toxic organization, I'm not sure that anyone will.

That would be nice mish hacker, but they have had plenty of opportunities to be transparent with us. Time for checks and balances

It would be nice if we didn't have to go outside the service to address the concerns of those within it. Is this what our organization has become? Thousands of officers and enlisted troops can't get resolution or straight answers on a 5-month program until T.C. updates his blog? I really appreciate what he writes and the attention it brings to our situation; I'm just disappointed our organization is either incapable or unwilling to address this internally. Perhaps this feeling of isolation is why so many of us want out.

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Yeah, I say the same thing all the time. All those Master's Degrees out there and no one can figure this shit out? Money well spent for sure...

(Yeah, I finally got an AAD line in there!)

When a MAJCOM CC visited my base, the question was brought up about how we were not getting enough information about these Force Management programs. His answer was that is bullshit and that we were getting enough information. Unbelievable... I had a meeting the other day with my CC and asked him about if he had any news on VSP and he went to the politburo (AFPC) website and gave me information that I already knew. It sucks that even our commanders are being kept in the dark.

Even though it royally sucks that we cannot even depend on our own employer for accurate information, having this site and T.C. broadcasting out the latest scoop has been extremely beneficial.

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Love the politiboro reference, Cornholio. Unreal that the majcom/cc you referred to said that. Perfect example of these flag officers protecting themselves and each other.

so....what do we thing the odds are of getting results by the 22nd?

If only AFPC would come out and say it

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so....what do we thing the odds are of getting results by the 22nd?

Well, to quote Dumb and Dumber, "more like one out of a million." So you're telling me there's a chance!!!!

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