FLY6584 Posted March 31, 2014 Posted March 31, 2014 Just got off the phone with the TFSC and they said they had no information regarding a 6 year UPT ADSC waiver. The guy I spoke with called the separations folks and they said they are still waiting to hear back from Air Staff on whether they will waive UPT ADSC's so at least it sounds like it is slightly within their cross check.
chim richalds Posted March 31, 2014 Posted March 31, 2014 I'm sure he's trolling, but if they did put it at 6 years, then bravo "Air Staff." Those of us serving out our sentences in GCSs will appreciate the choice of that number.
lossofclocklossofdata Posted March 31, 2014 Posted March 31, 2014 I'm sure he's trolling, but if they did put it at 6 years, then bravo "Air Staff." Those of us serving out our sentences in GCSs will appreciate the choice of that number. 6 years makes sense if they actually want to cut pilots back to the '08 year group like the matrix that was taken down shows. First shred of common sense being applied however it appears to be WOM at this point.
Altus Barbarosa Posted March 31, 2014 Posted March 31, 2014 Subject---------------------------------------------------------------Retirement RequestDiscussion Thread---------------------------------------------------------------Response Via Email(myPers - Total Force Service Center) - 03/31/2014 03:53 PMSir / Ma’am (All TERA Applicants)Thank you for your immediate responses. Please keep in mind if you have already attached the Statement of Understanding (SOU) to your case previously (prior to 29 Mar 2014), there is no need to e-mail them or re-attach to your case.1. Some of you may see a blank letter when you attempt to review them in the system. Please don’t be alarmed by this. If attached, we can see your signature on our end.2. Based on system limitations please do not attempt to re-attach the SOU to your case. Attaching documents at this time will erroneously change the system status of your case.3. Please do not e-mail the SOU if you have already attached to your case (Attached previously). Please only e-mail the letter if you have not signed and attached prior to Saturday 29 Mar 2014.4. If you have any additional questions please continue to contact the Total Force Service Center at DSN: 665-0102 or 1-800-525-0102.5. TERA processing has not been suspended. We are still planning to begin providing Approval/Disapproval notifications as scheduled 1-Apr-2014.Your continued patience and understanding is greatly appreciated.Response Via Email(myPers - Total Force Service Center) - 03/31/2014 03:49 PMSir / Ma’am (All TERA Applicants)
Dagoden Posted March 31, 2014 Posted March 31, 2014 Wow. Information. Does anyone know how to confirm our SOU is on file? Sent from my SAMSUNG-SGH-I337 using Tapatalk
Mountain Posted March 31, 2014 Posted March 31, 2014 Note the wording of #5: "PLANNING to BEGIN..." Look out boys, the rules are changing again!
Altus Barbarosa Posted March 31, 2014 Posted March 31, 2014 Didn't they already begin? They've been approving TERAs for the last week. Just not O's.
FlyFastLiveSlow Posted March 31, 2014 Posted March 31, 2014 Just got the same email. PSDM says complete by 1 Apr. Guess they are already planning ahead for their eventual failure. Shock.
lossofclocklossofdata Posted March 31, 2014 Posted March 31, 2014 (edited) Wow. Information. Does anyone know how to confirm our SOU is on file? Sent from my SAMSUNG-SGH-I337 using Tapatalk MyPers, my account at top, one of the incidents should have the SOU missing cm if you received an email about it missing. Click on a vsp/tera related incident and it should be attached as a pdf. Also "my documents" on bottom left should have it. Edited March 31, 2014 by lossofclocklossofdata
Dagoden Posted March 31, 2014 Posted March 31, 2014 That's what I was worried about. I know I uploaded my SOU, but I don't see it in either of those places. Awesome. Sent from my SAMSUNG-SGH-I337 using Tapatalk
TERA applicant Posted March 31, 2014 Posted March 31, 2014 I was told by AFPC that the "qualified applicants" will be approved tomorrow. Applicants that are not qualified (i.e. ADSC) will have a decision in the near future (whatever that means).
Shaft34 Posted March 31, 2014 Posted March 31, 2014 Old TERA announcement "Although we are updating in batches...The application window will run through 26 Mar 14. Therefore, you should expect an answer no later than 1 Apr 14." New TERA announcement: "TERA processing has not been suspended. We are still planning to begin providing Approval/Disapproval notifications as scheduled 1-Apr-2014."
Altus Barbarosa Posted March 31, 2014 Posted March 31, 2014 Like I said, they clearly began over a week ago with enlisted. Not sure what that actually means.
BitteEinBit Posted April 1, 2014 Posted April 1, 2014 Old TERA announcement "Although we are updating in batches...The application window will run through 26 Mar 14. Therefore, you should expect an answer no later than 1 Apr 14." New TERA announcement: "TERA processing has not been suspended. We are still planning to begin providing Approval/Disapproval notifications as scheduled 1-Apr-2014." Ah yes, the "changing goal post" technique. Helping warriors meet their objectives since 2008. 2
Dupe Posted April 1, 2014 Posted April 1, 2014 Ah yes, the "changing goal post" technique. Helping warriors meet their objectives since 2008. It worked in Iraq...it can work here.
ChkHandleDn Posted April 1, 2014 Posted April 1, 2014 I got an email from my boss today saying that they will waive 550 pilot/flying ADSCs for VSP. There were no details on how many to which year groups, airframes, etc. though so take it with a grain of salt. Here's hoping. 1
Butters Posted April 1, 2014 Posted April 1, 2014 I got an email from my boss today saying that they will waive 550 pilot/flying ADSCs for VSP. There were no details on how many to which year groups, airframes, etc. though so take it with a grain of salt. Here's hoping. AFPC just sent out a correction. The 550 is metric and AFPC still uses standard. The actual number after conversion is 341.755005157394. I rounded off the last digit. 4
matmacwc Posted April 1, 2014 Posted April 1, 2014 AFPC just sent out a correction. The 550 is metric and AFPC still uses standard. The actual number after conversion is 341.755005157394. I rounded off the last digit. And some dude named Butters just go RIFd, see you in Atlanta in a few months.
shweaty Posted April 1, 2014 Posted April 1, 2014 I got an email from my boss today saying that they will waive 550 pilot/flying ADSCs for VSP. There were no details on how many to which year groups, airframes, etc. though so take it with a grain of salt. Here's hoping. Are you at an undisclosed in location in Southwest Asia where it's April 1st? Haha very funny.
MooseAg03 Posted April 1, 2014 Posted April 1, 2014 I got an email from my boss today saying that they will waive 550 pilot/flying ADSCs for VSP. There were no details on how many to which year groups, airframes, etc. though so take it with a grain of salt. Here's hoping. The total of 11X overages from 2005-2008 on the previous RIF matrix was only 415. Maybe they are including some CSOs in the later year groups that may have ADSC remaining. Could they actually be intelligent enough to be offering ADSC waivers for the entire group in order to make them eligible for VSP, like the CSAF promised he would? If so, it would be the first thing to impress me about the AF for a long time.
Mish_Hacker Posted April 1, 2014 Posted April 1, 2014 The total of 11X overages from 2005-2008 on the previous RIF matrix was only 415. Maybe they are including some CSOs in the later year groups that may have ADSC remaining. Could they actually be intelligent enough to be offering ADSC waivers for the entire group in order to make them eligible for VSP, like the CSAF promised he would? If so, it would be the first thing to impress me about the AF for a long time. If they include the 04 year group (not eligible for the RIF, still?), that might get them to 550. Or that number could include the late-to-rate folks in the 01-03 year groups, or both. It could be referencing the CSOs, though Nav training ADSC was not excepted from the waiver in 13-65. But, who knows at this point, right? Good luck to the TERA applicants today....
lossofclocklossofdata Posted April 1, 2014 Posted April 1, 2014 K. I'm a little slow on the uptake. Which of the last 7 seven posts are legit? I doubt many of us are in the mood for tomfoolery on this subject but I'll throw out a courtesy laugh just to get clarification on the above info.
Dagoden Posted April 1, 2014 Posted April 1, 2014 K. I'm a little slow on the uptake. Which of the last 7 seven posts are legit? I doubt many of us are in the mood for tomfoolery on this subject but I'll throw out a courtesy laugh just to get clarification on the above info. My "good night all" was completely legit. I really meant it.
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