Altus Barbarosa Posted March 28, 2014 Posted March 28, 2014 Dude, that sucks!!! I was wondering why there weren't more guys lighting up this thread saying they got approved too. So I assume you are just waiting like everyone else again? Si.
Mountain Posted March 28, 2014 Posted March 28, 2014 Hi. I'm back. Those piss drunk cox in my FSS forwarded my a TERA approval for a TSgt Barbarosa. Wow. Just. Wow. This is a new low for the TERA adventure. I hope it's just that it's darkest before the dawn?
MSCguy Posted March 28, 2014 Posted March 28, 2014 Friday is almost here...who wants to speculate AFPC will post a new RIF PSDM late in the afternoon to barely meet the deadline to have guidance out 6 months prior to the board?
Day Man Posted March 28, 2014 Posted March 28, 2014 Hi. I'm back. Those piss drunk cox in my FSS forwarded my a TERA approval for a TSgt Barbarosa. What a goat rope. Man, these dudes are PISSING ME OFF. F U C K !!!! Is it wrong that I laughed? Sorry dude, that sucks.
Altus Barbarosa Posted March 28, 2014 Posted March 28, 2014 I did hear TSgt Barbarosa is pretty stoked.
Skitzo Posted March 28, 2014 Posted March 28, 2014 Nail them for releasing pii! Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk
Catbox Posted March 28, 2014 Posted March 28, 2014 (edited) I think it might be both... How could they not hate us, all us mission types do is call with our "questions" seeking "answers." The unmitigated audacity of us! Edited March 28, 2014 by Catbox 2
jstarsshag Posted March 28, 2014 Posted March 28, 2014 (edited) Anyone else get this gem? Is it just me or does it sound like if you ask any questions about your future that has been on hold for the last 3 month, they will conviently loose your request? Subject --------------------------------------------------------------- Retirement Request Discussion Thread --------------------------------------------------------------- Response Via Email(myPers - Total Force Service Center) - 03/27/2014 04:39 PM Sir/Ma'am Please refrain from making any inquiries on the status of your case prior to receiving a response from HQ AFPC. Doing so will cause your case to change to an incorrect status and you will no longer be in the correct status for the final Approval/Disapproval decisions. Your assistance in this matter is greatly appreciated Very Respectfully, HQ AFPC Retirements & Separations Branch Edited March 28, 2014 by jstarsshag
aerobat95 Posted March 28, 2014 Posted March 28, 2014 (edited) I am at my wits end.....this is total ######ing bullshit.....make a goddamn decision and let us all know one way or the other. The Air Force leaders and I use that term very loosely owe that to us. I would never want to go to war with any of these incompetent POS we have as "leaders"......they would get us killed. Sorry for the rant but enough is ######ing enough already!!! Edited March 28, 2014 by aerobat95 2
Altus Barbarosa Posted March 28, 2014 Posted March 28, 2014 Even though I took it in the ass I've for to ask, what timeline have they broken that would cause you to spazz like that? Other than the 30 day batch shit they have yet to actually bust anything. Now when they bust the 1 April date, which I expect them to, then we will all spazZ ZZZZZ!!!
aerobat95 Posted March 28, 2014 Posted March 28, 2014 (edited) I am just fed up with the indecision with this and EVERYWHERE in the Air Force....Not to mention all the dang changes and such.....So 1 April is when we should know.....hmmmm....not gonna hold my breath but who knows maybe the Air Force will surprise me in a good way..... Edited March 28, 2014 by aerobat95
Mish_Hacker Posted March 28, 2014 Posted March 28, 2014 Do you think that's what they're still waiting on? I had hoped the end pause meant they got the approval. I was thinking with the backlog the pause caused us VSPers are the last priority to TERA and 15 yr retirement and we are at the bottom of the stack. My other crackpot theory is they only received pilot apps for VSP and not enough of everyone else. HAF is probably waiting on the other AFSC's to apply so they can get cut them and deny us because they filled they're quota. I'm going bat shit crazy. I was actually just joking about the migration and using that time to get waiver authority. I definitely agree the VSP processing will probably occur after TERA, due to the timeline difference. I'm still curious as to when they will release the "updated" RIF matrix. Until that happens, I don't think they'll process VSP. Unless they are just gonna keep the RIF numbers secret... Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk
LettersVSandP Posted March 28, 2014 Posted March 28, 2014 I believe that my esteemed colleague of the tiny Cessna flying persuasion is trying to say that our senior managers have failed utterly at this program so far. Does anyone know for sure that they're not going to be told by some AFPC E-5/GS-7 that they're somehow ineligible? Does anybody know what criteria they're going to use in order to select from among those eligible? Does anyone know when or how they'll find out about the next several years of their life? Without being able to answer these reasonable and essential questions, we are nowhere after three months. As we stumble around in the dark as effectively as we can, let's not forget it's pathetic that there is no light. 1
shweaty Posted March 28, 2014 Posted March 28, 2014 I was actually just joking about the migration and using that time to get waiver authority. I definitely agree the VSP processing will probably occur after TERA, due to the timeline difference. I'm still curious as to when they will release the "updated" RIF matrix. Until that happens, I don't think they'll process VSP. Unless they are just gonna keep the RIF numbers secret... Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk I know you were joking about the migration. What I was referring to was do you think all they are waiting on is ADSC waiver? If I was a betting man I'd say they're not going to release the RIF numbers, they probably weren't suppose to release those in the first place. It seems to transparent for AFPC.
MooseDriver1 Posted March 28, 2014 Posted March 28, 2014 Nice work AFPC, very solid - 2000 11M, late to rate with UPT ADSC until mid 2015. Denied Palace Chase for 2 years of ADSC first time and 18 mos the second time. - VSP app submitted with concurrence from Sq and Wg/CC's and still in limbo awaiting processing since early Feb ------------------ then on Friday before starting a weeks worth of leave the email comes down informing my CC that I'm on the 365 day TDY vulnerability list and to be prepared for selection..... BRAVO, BRAVO.....
aerobat95 Posted March 28, 2014 Posted March 28, 2014 (edited) There are like 3 or 4 from my base that are 365 selects....all put in for VSP....I know its just a coincidence but.....makes you wonder So if the RIF portion comes and I have to fill out my retention form and I put something like eat a dick AFPC....what do you think my chances are? I'm thinking I might get promoted and denied.....I feel like Peter from office space....I don't give a rats ass anymore and they just won't fire me...ask yourself is this good for the company......lol Edited March 28, 2014 by aerobat95 2
Fozzy Bear Posted March 28, 2014 Posted March 28, 2014 2004 Year group/ 11S.... Just got this email today. "This is to inform you that HQ AFPC has disapproved the voluntary separation application submitted by ________. See comments below. Your request to separate under FY14 Officer Voluntary Separation Pay Program is disapproved due to being ineligible. Your commander has advised that your deployment return date is not till ### and in accordance with the program guidance (PSDM 14-08) "Eligibility Criteria" para "d" your can only pursue VSP if your projected return date is at least 30 days prior to the established or mandatory separation date (NLT 29 Sept 14). NOTE: Please DO NOT REPLY to this email. if you require assistance or do not understand the available options, please Contact Us at https://gum....... I have... no plan. Going TDY this weekend and all week; gonna talk to AFPC when I get back, and seriously base legal or whoever else to appeal.
Mish_Hacker Posted March 28, 2014 Posted March 28, 2014 I know you were joking about the migration. What I was referring to was do you think all they are waiting on is ADSC waiver? If I was a betting man I'd say they're not going to release the RIF numbers, they probably weren't suppose to release those in the first place. It seems to transparent for AFPC. I think that the ADSC waiver is one thing that they are waiting on. In my opinion, the primary reasons they aren't approving VSP applications yet is because they are swamped processing the enlisted applications or they are waiting on final approval of the overage numbers. I think the TERA approval numbers are related to a specific percentage (2% of the eligibles is what I seem to remember reading somewhere), whereas VSP should be up to, but not exceed, the RIF overages. Perhaps after releasing the RIF matrix, the MAJCOMs pushed back on the numbers. Also, the Congressional budget agreement might have caused some adjustments as well. I think both of these could change the number that the Air Force is looking to cut. Your second question is the tricky one. If adjustments needed to be made, why not just update the matrix? Instead, they pulled it and have been mum about it since. I think they intended to be transparent when they released it the first time. Whether they take that approach now is anyone's guess. Back in December and January, I was hopeful that the process would be transparent. As April approaches, I'm less optimistic that anything will be different this time... 2004 Year group/ 11S.... Just got this email today. "This is to inform you that HQ AFPC has disapproved the voluntary separation application submitted by ________. See comments below. Your request to separate under FY14 Officer Voluntary Separation Pay Program is disapproved due to being ineligible. Your commander has advised that your deployment return date is not till ### and in accordance with the program guidance (PSDM 14-08) "Eligibility Criteria" para "d" your can only pursue VSP if your projected return date is at least 30 days prior to the established or mandatory separation date (NLT 29 Sept 14). NOTE: Please DO NOT REPLY to this email. if you require assistance or do not understand the available options, please Contact Us at https://gum....... I have... no plan. Going TDY this weekend and all week; gonna talk to AFPC when I get back, and seriously base legal or whoever else to appeal. Sorry Fozzy.... Perhaps AFPC is now in the "try to disapprove as many VSP applications as possible due to narrowly worded eligibility guidance" phase
HoHum Posted March 28, 2014 Posted March 28, 2014 Fozz - as a '04 guy, you will still have ADSC 29 Sept, correct? So......no mention of ADSC in your denial is interesting.
Fozzy Bear Posted March 28, 2014 Posted March 28, 2014 Yeah I caught that too. Not sure what to make of it Posted from the NEW Baseops.net App!
Skitzo Posted March 29, 2014 Posted March 29, 2014 Yeah I caught that too. Not sure what to make of it Posted from the NEW Baseops.net App! Holy crap. Tactical DNIF! Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk
shweaty Posted March 29, 2014 Posted March 29, 2014 Nice work AFPC, very solid - 2000 11M, late to rate with UPT ADSC until mid 2015. Denied Palace Chase for 2 years of ADSC first time and 18 mos the second time. - VSP app submitted with concurrence from Sq and Wg/CC's and still in limbo awaiting processing since early Feb ------------------ then on Friday before starting a weeks worth of leave the email comes down informing my CC that I'm on the 365 day TDY vulnerability list and to be prepared for selection..... BRAVO, BRAVO..... Word on the street is if you want to get approved or even considered for palace chase outside of a year you need to have a letter of intent from a unit. Did you have that?
WolfPack0708 Posted March 29, 2014 Posted March 29, 2014 Cue the circus music... A friend of mine that's on Air Staff tells me that she was on a telecon with the guy that A1 has tapped to run this debacle. It's none other than the AF SAPR official accused of sexual battery last year: Lt Col Jeff Krusinki. No joke. I have to keep laughing, or I'd start crying.
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