Spoo Posted June 14, 2011 Share Posted June 14, 2011 (edited) Hey, maybe the AF could buy all those leftover berets! In US Army, the beret is out and the cap is back Mon Jun 13, 7:00 pm ET WASHINGTON (AFP) – The US Army is abandoning the beret, after a failed 10-year experiment. The black beret, which proved deeply unpopular with American soldiers, will be replaced by a patrol cap for everyday wear, US Army spokesman Colonel Tom Collins said Monday. The move came after outgoing Army chief of staff, General Martin Dempsey, asked the army's sergeant major "to go out and talk to soldiers across the force and see what was on their minds," Collins told AFP. "One of the things that soldiers consistently brought up was the desire to wear the patrol cap as part of their duty uniform," he said. The beret will still be part of the Army's dress uniform, but will no longer be worn in the field as soldiers complained that it was impractical, he said. "It does not have a visor and doesn't shield the sun, doesn't absorb sweat well," Collins said. One soldier put it more bluntly. "I hate wearing a wet sock on my head," Chief Warrant Officer Mark Vino, at Joint Base Lewis-McChord in Washington state, told the Army Times. "Plus it makes head/skin break out." Before 2001, the black beret was associated with the elite Rangers special operations forces. Many Rangers resented the idea that the hat they had earned the right to wear had been assigned to the entire force. The uniform change applies to 1.32 million soldiers -- including 566,473 active duty troops -- and goes into effect immediately. The new headwear comes with a lower price: a beret costs $11.90 while a patrol cap is only $6.50. The decision does not affect units that have long worn berets as a mark of distinction, including the Rangers' black beret, Army special forces' green beret and Airborne's maroon version. As part of the change, soldiers will have the option of having their name tags, rank and badges sewn on to their uniforms. There also will be a new look for Army soldiers working at the Defense Department's headquarters at the Pentagon, with camouflage to be replaced with the more business-like dress uniform, Collins said. "For soldiers serving in the Pentagon, we will transition to the dress uniform," starting in July, he said. In the aftermath of the attacks of September 11, 2001, all the armed services started wearing combat uniforms in the Pentagon, to underscore the country's war-footing. But Defense Secretary Robert Gates last year had his staff drop the combat uniforms, and some other offices in the Pentagon have returned to the dress uniform. "Our perspective is that this is the corporate part of the Army," said Sergeant Major of the Army, Raymond Chandler, quoted on the US Army's website. What a horrible perspective. Edited June 14, 2011 by Spoo Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
abmwaldo Posted June 14, 2011 Share Posted June 14, 2011 "For soldiers serving in the Pentagon, we will transition to the dress uniform," starting in July, he said. Guess who will be next.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest fin Posted June 14, 2011 Share Posted June 14, 2011 What a horrible perspective. Careful. Last guy said that out loud, they stuck him against a wall and powerpointed him to death. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
StoleIt Posted June 14, 2011 Share Posted June 14, 2011 Careful. Last guy said that out loud, they stuck him against a wall and powerpointed him to death. And they charged his family for the software. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Hueypilot812 Posted June 15, 2011 Share Posted June 15, 2011 Hey, maybe the AF could buy all those leftover berets! They aren't ditching the black berets completely...it'll still be the standard headgear for the green service dress uniform. Just when wearing ACUs, the standard headgear will be the patrol cap, as it should be. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spoo Posted June 15, 2011 Author Share Posted June 15, 2011 Guess who will be next.... Yup, can't believe it hasn't happened yet. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TrainerModel Posted June 23, 2011 Share Posted June 23, 2011 Yup, can't believe it hasn't happened yet. Eh, shouldn't effect bag wearers I hope. Make the shoes wear thier bus driver outfits with thier ribbons sticking out. Maybe it'll squash thier perception that they too are warfighters, actually nevermind, you can never soothe an insecure ego. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lj35driver Posted June 24, 2011 Share Posted June 24, 2011 They were quick to abandon it too. Been at a class held at Army Space Command and havent seen a single beret. Wish I could tell the CSAF to give us our black boots and tshirts back and it happen. Been wearing them for the last 16 years and I'm only on my second pair of quick dons. I'll be wearing mine right up until the last day in protest. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spoo Posted June 27, 2011 Author Share Posted June 27, 2011 Eh, shouldn't effect bag wearers I hope. Yeah, keep telling yourself that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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