LJDRVR Posted May 13, 2006 Share Posted May 13, 2006 But the collar HAD flair! Didn't you see the old AAC props w/wings? Flair! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest lovelacm Posted May 13, 2006 Share Posted May 13, 2006 LJ - LOL! That's close what we started out wearing back in college (AFROTC)... damned bastards changed it to the business suit. I'm right with you, man. Are we in the USAF or a Fortune 500 company? Can we at least LOOK like it, please!? However, I'd slide the O-5's rank back down his epaulets to the edge like "old days." Shoot, I even like the "Props" on his lower collar... Collar's a little large for my taste, but the rest of it looks sharp. :B&B Liquer: Linda Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Aces-High Posted May 13, 2006 Share Posted May 13, 2006 All you have to do is look at pictures of Generals from the very beginnings of the Air Force until now. It's the same way with the rest of the country. We're going from no-nonsense kick ass guys to a bunch of softies who won't even talk tough anymore. Except for fighter dudes (and I'm thinking mainly of A-10 dudes) and PJs and the like... everyone else seems to be turning into a bunch of wads (SNAPS etc. Some of the SNAPS in pilot training run around thinking more about learning to cook french cuisine and how best to coordinate their post modern furniture than about fighting a war and how best to blast the enemy). It's just [ 12. May 2006, 23:30: Message edited by: Aces-High ] Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LockheedFix Posted May 13, 2006 Share Posted May 13, 2006 I second LJDRVR, just go back to the cold war style uniforms, period. As gay as this whole fashion show looks, at least it shows they realize how stupid we look in our gay ass leisure suits. There's no way they're going with the high collar Billy Mitchell thing. Give me the Curtis LeMay style and I might actually not ***** about having to wear it once a year. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FireMission Posted May 13, 2006 Share Posted May 13, 2006 duders --- prop & wings is cool. bring back the non-business suit jacket and add the props & wings to at least feel some AF heritage. The rest is bullsh*t. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HerkDerka Posted May 13, 2006 Share Posted May 13, 2006 Originally posted by Aces-High: All you have to do is look at pictures of Generals from the very beginnings of the Air Force until now. Comparison: The old days- For God's sake, the old hats could even make a chaplain a bad ass. The new days- You decide. HD [ 13. May 2006, 00:25: Message edited by: HerkDerka ] Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
M2 Posted May 13, 2006 Share Posted May 13, 2006 What I don't like about the "prop & wings" is that it makes us look more like the Army (those are Branch insignia like the Army wears on their Class As). And the one thing I wouldn't want is any indication that we desire to be like the Army. There is already too much of that going on. Of course I need to caveat all this by saying I no longer wear the uniform, but as I still work on an AFB I would have to not laugh at people who came to work dressed like this! It would be tough! HerkaDerka gets my vote for the best post in this thread! Cheers! M2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hacker Posted May 13, 2006 Share Posted May 13, 2006 Back to the uniforms.... Anyone else wanna go back to khakis/pinks-n-greens? So long as I don't have to fly in them! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
busdriver Posted May 13, 2006 Share Posted May 13, 2006 If we're gonna change up the uniform, can we lose the gay ass powder blue shirts? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stiffler Posted May 13, 2006 Share Posted May 13, 2006 i actually am gonna get killed for this, but I think the new concept of uniforms are actually not bad, except that we are ripping off the marine corps. We do need to get a uniform and stick with it though, and if they change the airline pilot business suit I wouldnt be upset. AND they need to make it so no one can wear the damn short sleeve blue shirt with a tie. Wow. Kinz Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LJDRVR Posted May 13, 2006 Share Posted May 13, 2006 Sadly enough, we had a uniform, for 48 years only the material changed. You should get back to it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest soflguy Posted May 13, 2006 Share Posted May 13, 2006 CSAF:"Dies ist gut. Ja?" Underlings: "Yes sir. Makes you look very... ummm.... dignified." EDIT: Cuz German is not my forte... and for a clearer picture [ 13. May 2006, 17:18: Message edited by: soflguy ] Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
egochecks Posted May 13, 2006 Share Posted May 13, 2006 Soflguy, Just visited a WWII display with uniforms and I was thinking the same thing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest driftsight Posted May 13, 2006 Share Posted May 13, 2006 Shit boys, you're all wrong... Marine look-a-likes or not - I'd wear the first set anyday. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bergman Posted May 14, 2006 Share Posted May 14, 2006 Originally posted by HerkDerka: For God's sake, the old hats could even make a chaplain a bad ass. For the record, the wheel caps are still available. In fact, all field grade officers are "required" to own one. While I should probably not admit this in public, I actually own one (was forced to by previous CC...long story)...it is actually pretty hilarious to wear the thing around and watch the reaction of people. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bergman Posted May 14, 2006 Share Posted May 14, 2006 Originally posted by ClearedHot: It just struck me as odd how the USAF spends millions of dollars to send some of us to UPT and we end up holding wheel caps, carrying luggage for the boss, and my personal favorite....answering the phone. Agreed...but at the end of the day, you're making close to $50/hr to do what a civilian secretary gets $8/hr to do. Plus you've got good medical benefits and a retirement. Gotta love government service. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LockheedFix Posted May 14, 2006 Share Posted May 14, 2006 Originally posted by busdriver: If we're gonna change up the uniform, can we lose the gay ass powder blue shirts? Or at least let us wear white undershirts with a collar that shows instead of the John Travolta look with all your chest hair sticking out. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
M2 Posted May 14, 2006 Share Posted May 14, 2006 Originally posted by herk28: Or at least let us wear white undershirts with a collar that shows instead of the John Travolta look with all your chest hair sticking out. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Clayton Bigsby Posted May 14, 2006 Share Posted May 14, 2006 here is a crazy thought - not regulating the type of undershirt to be worn underneath the short sleeve blue (except for it being plain and white)...so people have the OPTION of the crew-neck, the v-neck, or even the wife-beater... perish the thought that it be made a choice! we're already given the choice to wear it with a tie or not... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Flare Posted May 14, 2006 Share Posted May 14, 2006 Damn it Chuck! Thats what I was gonna say! Less regulations! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
M2 Posted May 15, 2006 Share Posted May 15, 2006 Actually, the v-necks were being worn long before they became the norm... Cheers! M2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LockheedFix Posted May 15, 2006 Share Posted May 15, 2006 Originally posted by M2: Actually, the v-necks were being worn long before they became the norm... Cheers! M2 Which shows how outdated they are. Thanks M2. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Rainman A-10 Posted May 15, 2006 Share Posted May 15, 2006 Here's part of the all important uniform decision matrix... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest jarhed Posted May 16, 2006 Share Posted May 16, 2006 [ 16. May 2006, 13:09: Message edited by: jarhed ] Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest TheBurt Posted May 16, 2006 Share Posted May 16, 2006 Wow, I don't log on for a couple of weeks, and find this thread, it made me laugh more than the CAP Spaatz girl, priceless. More Chair Force bullsh*t. Funny, while I was being "force shaped" out of my active duty pilot slot in 1990, McPeak was changing the uniform, I love the Star Wars/Marine Corps look, nice butch look for the female general. It reminds me of SOS, and "warrior Fridays", yeah you, supply guy, "your a fvcking warrior". I especially liked trying to get in the warrior shoe clerk girls pants at the brew pub in Montgomery on warrior Friday nights. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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