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Sua Sponte

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    5 hours ago, drewpey said:

    You're really going to "muh both sides" me with a 20 year old example?  Surely you can find a better, more recent example than democrats going to court on mail in ballots postmarked after the election...something that would give most republicans an aneurysm in 2020.

    Sure fraud happens on a negligible level and is usually caught, but "massive" is a bit of an overstatement.  Even the hyper-partisan Kobach commission came up dry, like most republican investigations into "fraud".

    As said before the biggest flaw in these conspiracy theories is that it assumes the government can coordinate and execute something this big without anyone knowing about it or coming clean.  On top of that, the idea we cheated yet neglected to check the boxes for senate seats is just laughable.  Also since there's 50 states, why are we only concerned about fraud in a couple states if it's so widespread?  Seems like if we really are that devious there would be ample evidence everywhere. I was promised a Kraken.  Where is my Kraken?

    Trump should have won given how close the race was and how poorly his decision making process was...but he is too arrogant to listen to anyone and has surrounded himself with yes men.  He is literally the dude who chooses the throwaway COA every time.  "we could ignore it and wait for it to go away, we could issue an apology and pretend to care, or we could double down and insult their mom" "Yeah, lets go with 3"

    That’s how they work. Whenever you point out facts of Trump and the GOP they can’t bullshit around, it always turns into “I’m not a fan of Trump” and “both sides do that” while they pull out more straw man arguments. Oh yeah, whatever happen to Hunter Biden’s laptop? I thought that was going to put a dagger in Biden’s campaign?

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    20 minutes ago, FLEA said:

    I simply live in a Hobbes worldview, and you are a Rousseau. That's fine, but to me you are the one making the outrageous claim. Here are 1300 proven allegations of voter fraud: Voter Fraud Map: Election Fraud Database | The Heritage Foundation  

    These are small scale, but that's the point. When elections require scale to tip the balance why are these people tipping only 1-2 ballots? The simple answer to that would be, because they are trusting that others are also doing the same. As I said in my initial post, it happens, 100% guaranteed. Size, scale, and level of organization is unknown. But I think when people reject the idea of voter fraud they have this idea of conspiracy in the back of their head that plays out more like a Hollywood movie: Joe Biden hires an ex SEAL team to infiltrate a bunch of election offices. The reality is, Joe Biden probably has 0 idea that fraud is happening in his name, because if you were organizing fraud, you would be smart enough not to tell him or anyone within three circles of him. The agents that undertake this degree of disobedience are not unheard of. They pull strings attached to levers of power that are deliberately obfuscated from public view. In other vignettes we would call them terrorist, revolutionaries, and extremist. 

     

    Edit: Also to you quote, Jim is an insurance salesman, that dude can't be trusted worth fuck and you should know that!

    Hobbes believed in complete monarchy and that government must have absolutely authority. If that’s what you’re advocating, readjust your tinfoil hat. 

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    Just now, Negatory said:

    This is the crux of the problem in current politics. We’re made to think we have significantly different views, but that’s because we basically have to choose one of two sides:

    1) Dems: We aren’t doing enough and we need to lock everything down needlessly without considering one side

    2) Repubs: We are doing too much and we need to remove everything we have done without considering one side

    In reality I think we probably look at the problem very similarly. We need more compromises.

    Honestly, this is where the president should “make his money,” by setting a national game plan and pushing down a path that hits both. Trump certainly didn’t do that well, and it doesn’t look like Biden’s going to, either. And when Biden encourages needless lock downs in cities with almost no one at risk, the cycle will continue.

     

    Some Dems think the lock down theory applies to everyone and only applies to them when it’s convenient to do so. Denver’s mayor tweeted yesterday about staying at home for Thanksgiving due to the pandemic, help prevent spreading of the virus, etc. He then tweets that he flew from Denver to Mississippi to visit his daughter and wife for Thanksgiving because it “would’ve been safer for me to travel instead of them traveling.” Then asks for forgiveness as a “father and husband.”

    Newsom did something similar a few weeks ago at a winery party since the group of 12 violated his own order of no groups to be bigger than three people.

    “Rules for thee, not rules for me.”

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    48 minutes ago, 17D_guy said:

    Man, if they could only have presented competent cases in court where evidence is actually required.

    Yeah, what a bummer that real “evidence” is required and not just hearsay.

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    18 hours ago, pawnman said:

    Bingo.  It requires admitting to Congress that you do not, in fact, have everything under control.

    Might even require *GASP* admitting there are other aircrew members besides just pilots.

    Willis is a prior -15E WSO.

    3 hours ago, abmwaldo said:

    I'll give you the flip side to my story above.

    I was grooming a CGO for WIC. On a feedback with the CGO he was instructed to update his records as his records didn't show that the CGO had a degree (ANY not advanced) listed on the CGO's RIP. Started to peel the story back... turns out the CGO didn't have a degree, and paid $300 for a fake transcript on the dark web to get commissioned. Currently the CGO is a SSgt in Leavenworth. 

    No extenuating circumstances, saw it as the path of least resistance (testified under oath)...

    Things that make you go "huh..." 

    Grand Forks had a KC-135 pilot that did the same thing years ago. Around 2003-2005 AFIT had a software glitch that showed some officers didn’t have a bachelors degree. His commander at the time just assume that what was wrong with his records and told him to just send in his college transcript to fix his records. After getting the push for his masters, it comes out he never graduated college. Apparently he went to a smaller college and did ROTC at a bigger university. His college academic year ran longer than the one where the ROTC detachment was at and the ROTC Commander allowed him to commission with the rest of the seniors. He ended up failing some finals and never told anyone, but he was a 2Lt and on his way to UPT.

    His Sq Commander went to bat for him to take night school to finish his degree, but the Wing King booted him. Last I heard he was a Warrant flying some Army helos.

    5 hours ago, torqued said:

    Right. It shouldn't be complicated. I believe you're saying evidence of fraud is... a court case that alleges fraud.

    Okay... Okay. I'm willing to hear you out on that one, but let's back up.

    Once more: What is an example of fraud that you believe exists?

     

    How many of Trump’s legal filings have been successful in proving fraud?

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    5 hours ago, SurelySerious said:

    Sooooo your lack of addressing the question and deflecting says being a Senator didn’t qualify/prep Obama to be a president from a leadership and decision making perspective, copy. 

    I answered an asinine question with an asinine, but factually true, answer. Obama met the basic qualifications to be President. Being “qualified/prepped” for leadership and decision making ability is subjective, not objective. Obama is also the guy who ordered the executive of Neptune Spear against Bin Laden, even when Biden told him to wait. 

    That’s one of the great parts of America. You can have an actor, peanut farmer, governor, lawyer, and now a con-artist be President. All bring pros and cons to the office. You’ll disagree, but that’s like, your opinion man.

    44 minutes ago, Guardian said:

    And if they do, are they automatically assumed to be a good leader just because they have reached the senate?

    The MAF considers one to be a good leader because they're good at tracking/editing awards & decs, performance reports, and setting up holiday parties. YMMV.

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    37 minutes ago, SurelySerious said:

    That doesn’t address the question: Does a junior Senator actually lead anything?

    Subjective, he was the Chairman for the Subcommittee on European Affairs. He was law school professor, State Senator, and U.S. Senator. To skip being a Rep in the House to go being a U.S. Senator that young is pretty amazing.

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    12 minutes ago, ViperMan said:

    To be clearer though, you are surprised that a president who was previously a reality TV show host who's tagline was "you're fired" is firing people at an ABOVE AVERAGE rate? You find that surprising? I'm surprised with your surprise.

    Comparing Trump (who has been an executive for decades) with Obama (who had never been an executive) is not a valid comparison. WTF had Obama led before he became the leader of the free world? Seriously?

    He was a U.S. Senator, which last time I checked, is sorta a big deal. 

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    5 hours ago, brickhistory said:

    Gerald Walpin agrees with you. The fact of why he was removed is important.

    Except the bipartisan CNCS asked the White House to review Walpin’s conduct as IG. Unlike a president who removed an appointed key figure who stated facts, which wasn’t inline with the president’s partisan, and legally unproven as of yet, narrative he’s spewing.

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