Sua Sponte
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9 minutes ago, BashiChuni said:
if donald trump's administration was flagging speech they disagreed with across all social media platforms Sue Sponte and the left would lose a fucking gasket.
jesus christ the fact people aren't pissed about this gives me zero hope (among other things) for the survival of our "democracy"
We get it war hawk, America is being eroded. Better buy that ranch in Wyoming and to surround yourself with your conservative Boomer friends.
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2 minutes ago, brickhistory said:
https://www.politico.com/news/2021/07/16/hunter-biden-probe-prosecutor-499782
Maricopa County officials, the same ones who fought in court to prevent, then stop any audit, say the results being found is wrong. Totally legit. Hmmm?
So is the incumbent responsible for what happens on his watch? Pretty sure the answer is yes.
And the government "asking" private companies to censor citizens on the government's behalf seems totally not a bad thing. Especially since the government can sue said company into oblivion with lawsuit after lawsuit, regulation after regulation. Sure, the company can do what it wants.
But I do admit twitter is a more cheery place now. So you do you.
I don’t really read your echo chamber comments. I’m honestly surprised you don’t just post a meme without any rebuttal.
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11 minutes ago, kaputt said:
Dude, we are not talking about a legal case or the requirements that a law team is bound to abide by in a court of law. We are talking average and normal people posting on social media that may have the government flagging their speech as not correct.
That is a problem. The fact that you don’t see that as a problem is very telling.
Like I said, I don’t care if they are spewing BS about COVID, saying the earth is flat, or even hate speech. The fact is, the government has no legal right to play any part in deciding what is allowed to be said and what is not.
https://www.hg.org/legal-articles/what-type-of-speech-is-not-protected-by-the-first-amendment-34258
“What Type of Speech Is Not Protected by the First Amendment?”Saying you got 5G from a Covid vax, no matter how wrong that is, is not in there.
The “law team” was spewing bullshit of rampant voter fraud through the media despite little to no evidence, which caused them to lose every lawsuit they filed. Said lawsuits were filed in bad faith based on their “free speech,” and are now facing some very serious professional implications because of their “free speech” isn’t so protected.
The irony is the fact that a good majority of you are in the military, the one organization that can severely suppress free speech.
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18 minutes ago, HeloDude said:
So I’m confused…should businesses have to bake the cake or not? Since someone can go to a different bakery…
Standard
Is someone refusing to bake a cake because they’re being discriminatory over a protected class or someone or is someone just refusing to bake a cake due to it violating their own protected class? The SCOTUS didn’t take a broad interpretation in Masterpiece Cakeshop v. Colorado Civil Rights Commission for good reason.
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3 minutes ago, ViperMan said:
It's a pretty shallow analysis to say that because Facebook (et al) are private companies, when they censor speech, it's not the government doing it. In fact, however, there is established legal precedent which (time and again) has determined that when government pressures or otherwise incentivises a company to act on their behalf, that action has become a de facto governmental action.
The reason for this is simple. If it was just as simple as saying "hey private company, restrict this speech we don't like so it's not us doing it and we'll hook you up in some way," would free speech really mean what we all think of it as? Of course not, which is why there have been numerous court cases which have decided that the government cannot use private companies as a proxy to accomplish what they are otherwise forbidden from doing. Which, in this case, is restricting speech.
https://www.wsj.com/articles/save-the-constitution-from-big-tech-11610387105
For example:
"For more than half a century courts have held that governmental threats can turn private conduct into state action. In Bantam Books v. Sullivan (1963), the Supreme Court found a First Amendment violation when a private bookseller stopped selling works state officials deemed “objectionable” after they sent him a veiled threat of prosecution."
Where did the government say they were going to levy legal action against the tech giants if they didn’t “censor” free speech?
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13 minutes ago, SurelySerious said:
“Hey private company, censor this speech for us.”
Sounds like the government is indeed 1000% restricting free speech.Yeah, cause tech companies give a fuck what the Feds want all the time. It’s also not censoring when you’re free to go to another platform and say whatever you want. You know, for the six minutes you guys were on Parler and learned that the tech giants also own all the major cloud hosting services.
https://www.cnbc.com/2020/01/07/fbi-and-apple-are-poised-for-another-privacy-disagreement.html
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16 minutes ago, kaputt said:I don’t even know what to say man. Presumably you’re a US Citizen and a military officer, and you are okay with the government of this country having a role in censorship. That’s shocking.
I don’t care if they are flagging the most asinine and uneducated COVID conspiracy posts ever, the government has no business deciding what can or cannot be said.
The government isn’t deciding, the owners of the social media platforms are. Also, the First Amendment does not protect against knowingly false statement of fact. If that was the case, then explain why the Kraken Legal Team facing possible sanctions up to disbarment for their inherently bad faith voter fraud lawsuits.
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57 minutes ago, kaputt said:
Did you miss the part where the Government is working with private companies to silence voices? Or is government censorship something you’re cool with?
By silence you mean telling social media platforms to cutdown on misinformation? It’s not a First Amendment violation since it’s up to the social media platforms to either delete it or not, the government isn’t disposing directly. Suggest you chicken littles focus on the 2024 election.
If social media platforms are unfairly targeting conservatives saying they’re the root cause of misinformation, then why are Ted Cruz, Ben Shapiro, Lauren Boebert, and that CrossFit Nazi from Georgia’s accounts not deleted?
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24 minutes ago, brickhistory said:
- Justice Dept admitting it covered up the Hunter Biden laptop story which includes them actively investigating him for tax evasion (say, while you're at it, you might want to check on him for lying when purchasing a handgun..) because they "didn't want to seem political during an election."
- WH Press Secretary admitting this Administration has been working with various Big Social Media companies to have voices silenced "because they are spreading 'disinformation.'" Say, who decides that anyway? I'd like to be part of the 'in crowd' deciding what the plebes can say or see...
- Fulton County had at least 4,400+ illegal votes during the 2020 election. In a state that Trump lost by 12,000-ish votes. So one county had 1/3 of the difference and the only one that had an audit. And this coming from reporting by the Atlanta Journal-Constitution, about as liberal a paper as there is.
- Maricopa County audit looks like 74,000 mail-in ballots received than were sent out officially. Nothing see there, yet Congress wants to investigate the investigators.
- The DOJ IG hammers the FBI for missing/covering up for years info on the now imprisoned Olympic Committee doctor who abused young girl athletes. Sure does seem like the FBI's been "missing" a bunch of stuff in the last years - San Bernadino shooter, the Lakeland shooter, the Pulse Night Club shooter, etc, etc.
- Groceries and gas seem to be a tad bit more expensive nowadays as well.
But twitter has been remarkably upbeat and nice so that's a fair trade.
1. Wasn’t the “laptop story” coming from someone who was recently had their law license suspended in two separate jurisdictions? Hmmm.
2. Who gets to decide what’s said their platform? The owner of said platform. Don’t like it? You’re free to make your own.
3. https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/politics/2021/07/15/georgias-raffensperger-calls-firing-fulton-election-officials/7983338002/
“Three separate audits of Georgia's 2020 election results found no evidence of widespread voter fraud.”4. https://apnews.com/article/f0c36df59ee1069d65aa6a70a22d88cc
“CLAIM: Arizona’s largest county in the 2020 election received and counted 74,000 mail-in ballots that had no record of ever being sent out to voters.
THE FACTS: False. The claim mischaracterizes reports that are intended to help political parties track early voters for their get-out-the-vote efforts, not tally mail-in ballots through Election Day. The reports don’t represent all mail-in ballots sent out and received, so the numbers aren’t expected to match up, according to Maricopa County officials and outside experts.
“We have 74,243 mail-in ballots where there is no clear record of them being sent,” Logan said at a meeting livestreamed at Arizona’s Capitol on Thursday. “That could be something where documentation wasn’t done right. There’s a clerical issue. There’s not proper things there, but I think when we’ve got 74,000, it merits knocking on a door and validating some of this information.”
Logan based his false claim on two types of early voting reports issued by Maricopa County: EV32 files and EV33 files. He claimed that EV32 files are “supposed to give a record of when a mail-in ballot is sent” and EV33 files are “supposed to give a record of when the mail-in ballot is received.”
That’s not accurate, according to Maricopa County officials, who tweeted on Friday that “the EV32 Returns & EV33 files are not the proper files to refer to for a complete accumulating of all early ballots sent and received.”
Instead, the EV32 and EV33 files are reports created for political parties to aid them in their get-out-the-vote efforts during early voting, according to Tammy Patrick, a senior adviser at the Democracy Fund and a former Maricopa County elections official. Arizona law requires county recorders to provide this data to political parties and candidates, Patrick said.”
6. https://www.politico.com/news/2021/07/04/gasoline-prices-gop-biden-497947
“It’s an old tactic employed by opposition parties to blame sitting presidents when fuel prices rise on their watch — and one that Republicans unsuccessfully tried to wield against Barack Obama during a recovering economy a decade ago. This time, they are pointing to Biden's ambitious climate change plans, his pause on leases for new oil wells on federal lands, and his cancellation of the permits for the Keystone XL pipeline as the culprits, although none of those steps have had any immediate impact on what motorists pay at the pump.
Experts largely agree that the White House usually has little to do with short-term moves in gasoline prices, which are a factor of global oil prices, U.S. refinery operations, and — especially this year — a sharp jump in demand from drivers as people emerge from lockdowns and travel resumes.“
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14 hours ago, 12xu2a3x3 said:
It’s true I heard it myself. Flight deck dudes and dudettes are a unified front and we’re handling it.
He’s an ABM, there’s only ABMs in charge of anything here.
Ask him what UPT base he washed out of?
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14 hours ago, brickhistory said:
I will leave off the voting shenanigans for another time.
Looks like it’s going well for his voting fraud legal team.
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7 hours ago, Guardian said:Yeah. The potential still exists however to have an anthrax or greater level event. Because a lot of people absolutely don’t want these vaxes. For whatever reason. So as an outcome the DOD is risking losing a lot of people, or kicking a bunch out, and having a lot of lawsuits. To a higher degree than when it happened with anthrax. So something that has a survival rate in the high 90’s for most people in our military.
Oh well. You don’t think that doesn’t happen in the civilian world? Ask all the medical folks who lost their jobs due not getting the vaccination. Sue the Feds? Good luck, hope you have monetary means to do so.
Go ahead and leave. I think a lot of people have a humbling experience when they leave the military because their delusions of grandeur of their “worth” isn’t as high to potential employers as they thought.
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13 hours ago, jazzdude said:
Civilian employers aren't required by law to ensure you have certain transition training and medical assessments done prior to separation/quitting.
Most of those laws are in place to make sure that 22-26 year old enlisted troop transitions well into civilian life following their enlistment.
Also, 2 weeks is generally just a courtesy, could be 0 (right to work goes both ways), could be more based on the employment contract.With at-will you could actually give two weeks notice and your employer could escort you out that day.
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2 hours ago, di1630 said:
I’m not a reservist...AD, although I’m post 20, no bonus with the ability to call it quits anytime I like with 4 months notice and I let that be known.
Do you want to allow me to wear the patches I want or do you want to lose a 4,000 hr 11F?
I’m usually left alone.
Sent from my iPhone using Baseops Network mobile appThat’s the equivalent of being “made” in a Mob family. Untouchable.
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1 hour ago, di1630 said:
We had a patch crackdown telling us what was allowed/not approved. I showed up Friday with my non-allowed patches. Went to wing level meetings, talked with a visiting DV, no complaints.
Sent from my iPhone using Baseops Network mobile appThey probably saw your AFRC patch and knew saying anything would be a lost cause.
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9 minutes ago, kaputt said:
VAERS data is NOT people dying from vaccine reactions. It’s people dying of any cause after getting a vaccine.
To my unscientific brain it seems highly likely that a vaccine that was emphasized in an elderly and immune compromised population would have a high probability of some of those people dying of any cause after getting a vaccine.
I’m not accusing anyone on here of this, but one thing I have found hilarious is the people who cast doubt on COVID death numbers (a doubt I agree with btw), all of a sudden cite VAERS data like it’s gospel truth, despite it having much of the vagueness as COVID death numbers.
It’s almost like people skew data to confirm their confirmation bias. Almost…
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20 hours ago, SocialD said:
Is this the same guy who said (on FB) that airlines won't be hiring for "a long time." Same guy that said he had no details on the bonus, but then proceeded to give a "do it for God and country" speech, as a precursor to the release of a shitty bonus?
I enjoy seeing people like that on “blacklists” companies have when they get out and assume they’re a shoe-in to be hired.
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3 hours ago, tac airlifter said:
Now thar so much more is coming out, it’s clear this entire thing was the bullshit many of us suspected from the start. A Chinese bio weapon escaped from a lab funded by the very people insisting it wasn’t. Masks were just a distraction to avoid this fact, and the doctors forcing masks compliance knew they were useless. Medically valid and effective treatments ignored and derided to push experimental vaccines. Those vaccines now mandated for college students in little danger from C19, but the vaccines are making their hearts explode. Medical doctors censored and banned from media for pointing to evidence. Have all the “conspiracies” come true or only most?
3 years ago, I wouldn’t have believed anything this insane and dystopian could rapidly grip America. I was totally wrong. We are living in scary and unpredictable times.
When did Alex Jones make a username on Baseops?
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The Next President is...
in Squadron Bar
Yeah, Trump just had the DOJ via lapdog Barr secretly subpoena his enemies data, including his own attorney. That’s not insane at all.
https://apnews.com/article/1252749aa9ad526cc01d633949bd9b5a