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Cry me a river. If you are working for an airline you have been making good coin in your last 17-22 years.

Glad the tradition carried on Huggy. The first one was '85 just as I was leaving the AF.

Gen. Fogleman is a first class act. I had just left the AF out of DMAFB when he came in as the new 1 star ADO. Moral was bad. First thing he did was to host Crud tournaments at the O'Club.

Locher & Stovall story is one of the great ones. Never met B/G Stovall but many years later found out he married a lady that was in my small high school senior class. Six degrees of separation. Stovall went on to fly for FedEx.

I used my entire GI Bill (back in the day) for FE and ATP ratings plus a Citation type. Used the remainder for a Master's degree. Like to think it helped as I was hired by two major airlines.

Two WSO's in my class finished #1 & #2. #1, Roger Locher, had 3 Mig kills as a WSO. Couple classes after me DeBellevue, the WSO MIG Ace after washing out of UPT initially, came back to UPT and ended up flying fighters. After flying LL missions with any extra fuel I usually gave the stick to the WSO. On a 10 hr deployment from TX to Germany my WSO flew at least a quarter of the flight.

As I recall, gave rides in the A-37 to deserving Airmen when the Wg/CC and I would fly out to Bergstrom from DMAFB. No supporting unit cept Transit Alert. I gave the brief, strapped them in, and off we went.

A lot of good advice on this thread wikz. I went to the U of H (majored in sailing 😁) and received my private at KHNL through the 2 yr AFROTC program. Is that not offered any more? Thought about trying out for the 199th when they had Phantoms after my AF commitment but livable job opportunities as you know in the Islands are scarce.

Out of curiosity where are you learning to fly? Hawaii?

Why spend $$$ on the Game Bird when Van's RV-4's are much less expensive:

Try 4 ocean crossings in 6 days, 2 pilots + FE. Then add a 1200 mile commute home.

He was on my (and others) No Fly list BEFORE the incident but for other reasons.

Met Huggy for the first time at Oshkosh today. Here he is enthusiastically holding court and patiently answering all questions from the audience in the dreadful heat. Came back an hour later and was still at it. Great rep for the retiring U-2 program.

The real Iran? Biff, don't get excited, it's not about the woman in the picture.