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Did the PC-12 already do this back before the transition to the U-28? I’d imagine it’s more expensive now though than the 208, but could still be a good option.

Liberty University offers a flight program as well as an AFROTC detachment, knocking out both of your concerns. It is a private school, and therefore pricey, but it’s what you’re looking for in Virginia. You could look into AFROTC scholarship opportunities to help offset the cost, too. *Edit* Feel free to send me a PM if you're interested in the above. Virginia also offers a 2+2 program with community colleges (like engeguy posted below). I've got some experience with that stuff, so just let me know.

CAFB 19-03 T-38 A-10 MI ANG 3x B-52 Barksdale 2x F-15E Seymour-Johnson B-1 Dyess T-6 FAIP 4x F-16 TBD T-1 3x C-130J Dyess C-130J Little Rock KC-135 Fairchild KC-135 PA ANG KC-135 OH ANG MC-130J Hurlburt HC-130J Moody 2x KC-10 Travis T-1 FAIP C-17 Elmendorf C-17 McChord C-17 Dover

A friend of mine currently in T-6s has said they do a mix of area work and instrument approaches. It seems like it’s similar to the T-1 transition phase, just obviously with much shorter sorties.

CAFB 18-15 (T-1 only) 3xC-17 Hickam, McChord, NC ANG C-130J Ramstein C-130H IL ANG 3xKC-135 MacDill, Fairchild, NH ANG T-6 FAIP RC-135 Offutt

I was wondering if there was anything to update about the C-12. How is the ops tempo, fam life, morale, etc looking now for new copilots? Thanks a ton in advance!

CBM 18-11 (T-1 only) C-17 Hickam C-17 Dover 2x C-17 McChord C-17 Charleston C-17 Travis C-17 McGuire 2x C-130J Dyess C-130J Ramstein KC-135 Mildenhall 2x KC-135 Fairchild T-6 FAIP C-17 Wright-Patt AFRC C-130H IL ANG C-130H Puerto Rico ANG KC-135R Nebraska ANG WC-130J Keesler AFRC KC-135R New Hampshire ANG KC-135R Grissom AFRC

CAFB 18-09 T-1 C-130J Little Rock AFRC C-130J Ramstein C-17 OH AFRC C-17 Dover C-17 Elmendorf C-5 CA AFRC C-5 Travis KC-135 TN ANG 2x KC-135 HI ANG KC-135 KS ANG KC-135 McConnell KC-135 Kadena KC-135 Fairchild KC-135 March KC-135 Mildenhall KC-10 McGuire U-28 Hurlburt T-38 2x F-16 TBD F-35 Luke MC-130J Kadena KC-135 Kadena C-130J Dyess T-38 FAIP Columbus

KCBM 18-07 T-38: 2x F-16 TBD C-130J Ramstein C-130J Yokota A-10 Davis-Monthan T-38 FAIP to Laughlin F-22 Tyndall T-1: KC-135 Fairchild RC-26 (Iowa Reserve) C-17 Charleston C-17 Hickam T-6 FAIP 2x C-17 McChord 2x C-146 Duke Field (Reserve) C-17 MS ANG C-130J Dyess KC-135 McConnell T-1 FAIP C-130J Ramstein KC-10 Travis

CBM 18-05 T-1s C-146 Duke Field C-17 Elmendorf C-17 Dover (USAFR) C-17 McChord KC-135 Scott KC-135 McConnell KC-10 McGuire AC-130J Hurlburt Field EC-130 Davis-Monthan C-130J Keesler (USAFR) C-130 West Va ANG C-130J Little Rock (USAFR) C-130J Ramstein C-5 Dover T-38s Saudi F-15 2 x F-16 TBD C-130J Yokota T-6 FAIP F-22 Tyndall

CBM 18-12 Track 8 x T-38 (2 Int'l) 11 x T-1 2 x TH-1

CBM 18-04 T-1s: KC-135 ANG KC-135 AFRC KC-135 Mildenhall C-5 Dover C-5 Travis C-17 Dover 2 x C-17 Charleston 2 x C-17 McChord C-17 Travis 3 x C-130 ANG U-28 Cannon T-38s: F-15C Kingsley Field 2 x Saudi F-15SA U-28 Cannon F-15E Seymour Johnson F-16 TBD A-10 Davis-Monthan

Columbus T-38 x1 T-38 FAIP x1 F-15E x1 B-52 x2 F-16 x1 A-10 Columbus T-1 x2 U-28 x1 MC-130 x1 E-3 x1 E-8 x2 C-17 (maybe more) x2 C-130 (maybe more) x3 KC-135 x1 T-1 FAIP x1 T-6 FAIP x1 LC-130 I don't remember the rest

Good stuff, thanks for the info! I grew up near Langley and never really knew what those guys did.

The ADAIRs help train raptors for combat against non-stealthy enemies, right? And, if you drop 38 ADAIR out of UPT, does that guarantee you a raptor after a couple years?

Any word on CBM's drop?

Not really sure, others here will have a better guess than me though. Sorry man

Pretty sure T-1 guys get to see "what's available" for drop night (airframe, location), but T-38 guys basically make a dream sheet. As far as how many of each option are available, I don't think that's stated. So it could say "C-17 Charleston, C-17 Dover, etc" but not how many 17s to Charleston or Dover.

Has being non-vol'd to -38s happened before? If so, do those guys end up loving it and getting fighters, or have there been cases where they were non-vol'd -38s and "non-vol'd" to fighters? Just curious.

17-10 Drop CBM: C-17 Hickam C-17 MS ANG A-10 Davis-Monthan KC-135 MacDill KC-10 McGuire AFR KC-135 McConnell F-15C Kingsley Field C-130 WV ANG RC-135 Offutt MQ-9 NY ANG C-17 Charleston B-52 Barksdale KC-135 ME ANG C-17 McChord A-10 ID ANG T-6 FAIP RC-135 Offutt F-16 Tuscon IAP RC-135 Offutt B-1 Dyess AFR HC-130 Davis-Monthan C-17 Charleston F-22 Tyndall

Any word on Vance or Laughlin drops?

Does anyone know whether the students who dropped the 3 x U-28 and 2 x C-146 put those high on their wishlist? Just curious, thanks!

I didn't realize they dropped these at UPT... that's sick. I always figured that was one you had to switch into.

As a sensitive new age pilot (select) I'm offended and expect an apology.

What do you mean by black jets? T-38 Aggressors?