Vertigo

Is a gay pride parade supporting a position or a specific company? It's a fuzzy line for sure, but there is a distinction.

I was a little young to fully appreciate Reagan's libertarian views on some things. http://youtu.be/Ixi9_cciy8w Posted from the NEW Baseops.net App!

So yeah, this just happened last week: 2 Infants Diagnosed With Herpes After Ritual Jewish Circumcisions

Israel surprised by number, sophistication of Gaza tunnels

Our wing puts individuals in hotels with direct billing for those outside the commuting distance. Of course I'm speaking about traditionals. Did you get a technician or agr gig? Posted from the NEW Baseops.net App!

Yes that is exactly what I'm saying because apparently you can't read a whole two posts back. Hey genius, if we didn't have to worry about a horde of illegals coming in because the system was changed that would allow them legal entry, don't you think it would be easier to control the border and manage the illegal border crossings by those unwanted elements such as terrorists and criminals? Posted from the NEW Baseops.net App!

I agree with medical/criminal screenings. I've said in the past a managed program where everyone (with very few limitations) can be accounted for and brought into the fold. Why do I ignore Israel? Maybe because our length of land border is 12x the size of theirs. It's definitely a heck of a lot cheaper to carpet and maintain that carpet in a 500 sqft apartment than it is a 6000 sqft McMansion.

So were there no illegal immigrants prior to this administration or are you saying all administrations are guilty of this?

Just think, if we changed the immigration process so that those we would otherwise come in illegally could now come in legally we wouldn't HAVE to spend additional resources beefing up border security and could free up additional dollars to help our own. What a novel concept! But no, let's keep throwing more money at a process that is clearly and utterly broken.

Dumbest post ever. Thanks for sharing. Posted from the NEW Baseops.net App!

Border patrol exists, yes. But are they doing the job to your satisfaction? If so, this thread needn't exist. If not, then further resources will be required. Thus increasing the federal government. Posted from the NEW Baseops.net App!

Sigh So these things that don't exist yet we need to secure the border are going to come free? My home is private property. The U.S. is not. Read the article, maybe learn something about the difference between private property rights and public property. You're probably too lazy to do so, so I'll point out the pertinent portion in relation to this.

Is the border going to secure itself? Are the UAVs going to fly on their own using solar power? Are these multi layer border walls going to build, maintain, and be manned for free? No? Hmm... well then I guess we'll have to increase funding to a federal entity to do all that. Restricting a human from moving to a place so they can attempt to better their lives is restricting freedom. Throwing up a wall without changing the process that currently keeps them from immigrating legally is one form of denying freedom to another. Read this- you'll understand where I'm coming from. http://www.theobjectivestandard.com/issues/2008-spring/immigration-individual-rights/

Work on the reading comprehension. I don't know how many times I can say it. If you change the system, they won't be illegal. You, however, want to volunteer the full faith and credit of the US Treasury, i.e. We the People, to give to another large beauracratic government entity to hinder human freedom. So what's the difference? None, other than who is receiving our tax dollars. And with my suggestion we increase our tax base, thus allowing more people to pay in to the system, theoretically decreasing yours and my burden. With your plan we just keep paying and paying with no end. Posted from the NEW Baseops.net App! The tax dollars will be spent all the same. You want to give it for a larger federal government. I'd rather it be spent to change the system, to increase freedom not take it away. Posted from the NEW Baseops.net App!

Just as soon as you do the same with your paycheck to the Border Patrol agencies. I'm sure they'll name a building or a wing of one of their buildings after you.

Umm, they wouldn't be illegals if we changed the system. What you are saying is, you don't care that you have to pay more taxes. You just don't want it to go to bettering other people's lives. Nice. Posted from the NEW Baseops.net App!

Or we fix our policies and allow those immigrants to pay into the system. But nah, let's just forego that option and instead spend those SAME tax dollars (private property being taken from you) to deny freedoms. Securing and enforcing border security isn't free. You're paying for it. And that payment will continue to grow. You're still spending tax dollars, it's just going to another function. Get it yet? Posted from the NEW Baseops.net App!

1. No. I said the program doesn't work so we need to fix it. 2. Pretty much. Are you saying the slaves had it great even though they weren't free? They got food, shelter, were allowed to have families, had a job, right? That freedom part wasn't needed. " Those who deny freedom to others, deserve it not for themselves." Posted from the NEW Baseops.net App! And in that same thread you were obtuse in regards to private property rights. Posted from the NEW Baseops.net App!

Plenty do. They are the exception. Sorry that you find human freedom a bleeding heart concept. Posted from the NEW Baseops.net App!

So your line of thinking is they come in illegally just because they want to break the law. Brilliant! If the process worked, they would use it. There's no reason not to. Why risk coming in to the country illegally if it was easy, and cheap for them to come in legally? Posted from the NEW Baseops.net App!

You may have if the store is only closed for you. Posted from the NEW Baseops.net App!

No what I'm saying is if you've ever gone over the speed limit on purpose you know why illegals come across illegally. Because the law was a hindrance and not a help to their goals. Posted from the NEW Baseops.net App!

Are you saying you've never sped? If so, you just placed yourself in the same boat as illegal immigrants. Posted from the NEW Baseops.net App!

If that was a viable option for most immigrants, don't you think they'd go that route? It's not. It's expensive, it's laborious, it's beauracratic, and the wait is unrealistic. So they do what they must because the legal option isn't really an option. Posted from the NEW Baseops.net App!

You think we'd see a reduction in expenditures? Whether we're spending tax dollars on welfare or on border enforcement, UAVs, investigating employers, etc we're still spending tax dollars. Once that money starts flowing to the new pots, those pots will continue to grow. Like I said during the last election- the only difference between Democrats and Republicans is who is getting the tax payer dollars. You're right. As I stated in the other thread, we shouldn't be hindering humans freedom to travel and seek out a better life for themselves. We should have a process in place that allows unrestricted movement but still lures them here through legal means so that they become another cog in the machine and not just a taker.