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Call me when the progressive left applies the same originalist tenacity to our second amendment as they're pretending to want for the 14th. These people are hypocrites and liars who claim to protect democracy without actually believing in it. I don't like the person of Donald Trump but clearly he's who these corrupt assholes fear, so chances are high he'll get my vote.
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2 hours ago, bfargin said:
Thats FUBAR. I'm not sure how/why you're getting off on seeing dead soldiers, much less soldiers from a country we aren't at war with. Putin sucks and Russia has no business in Ukraine, but I'm not happily celebrating that any of them are dying.
Agreed. ISIS & AQ were deeply depraved and it bothered me not all to collect scalps. But jerking off to pictures of dead Russian conscripts (If that’s even what we’re looking at)? Count me out bro.
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I love this thread; we should have every UPT class patch up here. Wish I'd saved a copy of the 04-10 patch.
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1 hour ago, Lord Ratner said:
One of the primary reasons I support Ukraine is because they are willing to die for their country. Western Europe is no where in my calculus.
An argument I was replying to was essentially that we must protect Ukraine in order to defend NATO from follow on incursion. You're making an unrelated point, which although laudable, is not good enough reason for me to support continued un-audited spending on UKR while our border remains open. Sorry dude, US first then I'm open to your perspective.
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When Germany starts acting like they actually believe Russia might expand past UKR and fight NATO countries, and is willing to commit serious money to that problem, that's when you've got my interest. However the current situation is that we're rushing to rescue Western Europe who doesn't feel threatened or inclined to break the bank investing militarily due to ann imminent Russian invasion. At the same time we have ever more serious domestic issues. The reply always seems to be "it's not either or, we can secure our border and the borders of Ukraine" except we can't, or we already would have.
No love for Russia here, but I 100% believe our over-investment in Ukraine is strategically foolish. CH, I get your point on pre-WW2 isolationists, but I am unconvinced Russia is analogous to Nazi Germany and Imperial Japan. It looks like a regional dispute to me. And instead of engaging in thoughtful discussion to convince me, the prevailing approach is to bully me by claiming I'm parroting Putin talking points like a stooge. If Covid has taught us anything, it's that people yelling thoughtless demands and name-calling must be ignored.
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4 hours ago, FourFans said:
No one. That's who's winning. It's war. No one wins in war.
Well that's just absurd, you can't really mean that. Here's a short list of groups who disagree with you: the Taliban. The third Reich, the Japanese imperial army, general Ulysses Grant, the native American tribes, Cortez. GMAFB.
I'm not sure what you were trying to say, but this is one of those squishy hearted axioms like "violence never solves anything" that we must reject as an outright falsehood. People win in war and people lose. More than any human endeavor war has very specific winners and losers. Your sentiments are a result of our soft and protected lives here in the modern west, a lifestyle made possible by wars we have won.And someone will win the war in Ukraine. Right now it appears Russia is winning, because they are not bothered by the people and material lost thus far provided they attain their objective which grows closer daily. I don't want them to win, but I am also unwilling to deplete our treasury in pursuit of stopping them. And what's more, I'm disgusted at people who cannot have a logical discussion about what actions the US should take in the Ukraine war to best serve our interests, people who claim anything but blind support to the Zielinski Dictatorship is somehow pro Russian.
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Secretary Austin is a disgrace.
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Prohibition doesn't work, and I'm sick of the knee jerk reaction to ban things for promises of safety. The same GO restricting booze sales to "keep Airmen safe" doesn't think twice about dropping a tasker at 1700 on Friday and sending those Airmen home to a furious wife after the kids are asleep. In my experience senior leadership should look in the mirror when trying to understand rising suicides in their force. Instead, they hit the easy button of restrictions & claim a halo for their duplicity.
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6 hours ago, ClearedHot said:
I'm not sure what you're saying "no" to since Trump gave no specifics; his manner of communication seems to be tossing out vague ideas and seeing how they play publicly. I don't necessarily like it, but it's better than whatever Biden is doing by operating in an echo chamber.
Had I been POTUS (good thing I'm not) I would not have allowed WA to dither for weeks while CHAZ/CHOP stole territory, set up borders, and inflicted misery on citizens of that state. I haven't thought through specifically what I would've done, but certainly using the military in some capacity would've been on the table.
The fundamental question is this: when elected state or city leadership completely fails their citizens, what is the national government to do? One could argue nothing since citizens voted those elected leaders into office, but one could also argue that outright insurrection is a federal crime and enforcement supersedes state authorities. Not being a lawyer I don't know what the right answer is, but ruling out potential COAs before they've been fleshed out seems like a recipe for more losing. Something our military leadership is unfortunately quite adept at.
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6 hours ago, SurelySerious said:
More recently it’s two parts: the would you rather amputate baby legs or kill a bus full of nuns section, and the fly blocks through canyons.3 hours ago, Danger41 said:I know several guys that failed these personality tests for one of the majors and got hired by another one. Good system.
I took several of these tests with no prep and failed about half of them the first time. Probably because given the choices above, I'm always shooting the bus full of nuns.... it's more scalps and moving targets are fun. But they're looking for different priorities.
The majors were a 6 month pause before reassessment, so I recommend being as honest as you are on the post deployment health survey when they ask if you have more than one to two drinks a month. Of course you don't.-
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Good replies gents, thanks for the perspective.
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16 hours ago, Lord Ratner said:
It does. We have that too, after all. Obviously you have to discuss these issues on a national level, not an individual level, otherwise conversation is literally impossible.
16 hours ago, jice said:Is there something I’m missing that makes the Ukrainian draft unethical/illegal? Or are they just drafting people because… Russia invaded them (again)?
Or, in insanity land… you’re right, that greatest generation had no spine because conscription provided 10 million personnel.
Does the logic work both ways? Would you also say Russia has the will to fight despite their forced conscription? Because I hear a lot about Russian forced conscription being symptomatic of imminent defeat, which seems like selective bias.
My take is that if the general public hates the war so much they’re dodging the draft (which wasn’t a factor during WW2 but definitely was during Vietnam) you can’t say a democracy has the “will to fight.” Because they don’t. Of course, neither Russia nor Ukraine are democracies so it’s a grey area of discussion.
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1 hour ago, Lord Ratner said:
But if they still have the will to fight...
I'm not sure forced conscription counts as "the will to fight."
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You have become the submarine to hunt the submarine.
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2 minutes ago, BashiChuni said:
where did all the ukraine cheerleaders go? oh onto the next outrage...
No matter what the next crazy event is.... if the synchronized narrative immediately becomes "no time for deep thought and debate, we must action this now!" you can bet outcomes will favor globalist progressives, cost more than we can afford, restrict freedom, and all initial reporting will turn out to be lies.
some of us are debating the things themselves. I encourage us to start looking for patterns & be predictive. We are Psyops targets.
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1 hour ago, HeloDude said:
Doesn’t sound like equality to me…
"Equality" is camouflage for special privileges.
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46 minutes ago, Danger41 said:
Just stay in, have the kid, take a year off, never be available when you come back, schedule kid appointments in the middle of the day, come off sorties constantly because “the baby had a rough night”, get sent to the wing after the article about being a fierce fighter pilot Queen that can do it all, get tagged for a deployment, immediately get pregnant again, repeat cycle.
Also work for a female Col at WG, get sent to staff with perfect strats, then get school when all the people putting in time on the line are denied. Have said Col order your attached SQ/CC to upgrade you, take 18 months on a specially made syllabus, then never fly and ask the SQ/CC to make you an evaluator on paper. Come back as the SQ/CC, don’t deploy, wreck any lethality of the team and continue upwards. Much inclusivity, very diverse and warrior queen.
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7 hours ago, Mark1 said:
20 seconds time of fall after 10-20 minutes of coordination necessary to satisfy all parties with weapon release. As opposed to 5-10 seconds to get a round away.
You were asked to drop a PGM at 15m as a matter of convenience. It's a testament to the engineering of the weapon that they trust its accuracy and effects so implicitly that they will accept the risk of weapons employment in relatively mundane scenarios, but I assure you the gravity of the situation that required CH to employ at 27 meters was in a different universe by comparison.
Also, while your hyperbolic description of gunship employments doesn't reflect reality, a concept that the point-and-click 'CAS' community lacks understanding of is that suppression now is almost always 1000x better than a kill in 5 minutes.
Pylon turn employment comes with its survivability and other minor idiosyncratic downsides, but in a permissive environment it's the greatest CAS force multiplier on the battlefield. There is no other platform in the inventory with this benefit to include rotary wing. No run-ins, no maneuvering to an IP, no 'i was off-aspect when shit kicked off'. Just ready to go, always.
The fact that Air Force Special Operations Command is thinking of divesting itself of a specialized capability so as not to be left on the sidelines in a conventional conflict tells you all you need to know about the competency of those running the place for the last while. Especially when adding a dime-a-dozen capability to the gunship platform results in a second rate implementation of that capability, when plenty of others can already do it more effectively. Precision munitions are great as a complement. Hang as many as you can the airframe, but not at the expense of the cannons.
It's hard to 'get through' the gunship culture, as Danger41 suggests, because they know better than those who are trying to get through.
This was a very well articulated reply, thanks for the thoughtful words. I don't agree with everything you've said. But you're right that I dropped because I was there (not because I was an optimal choice) and TEA trusted the weapon. And I definitely grant that no one does CAS better than your community... in pylon turn employment. "Pushing 5 minutes" was a real radio call I heard when they were doing CLT shots. Compared to other assets engineered differently that reported "in continuous." But that's a result of forcing gunships to do something they weren't built to do.
Thanks for writing this, good post. FWIW I don't agree with the decision to divest the 105 and, despite poking fun at gunships sometimes (who send more than their share of shit at other communities), I have extreme respect for the effects they bring to the fight and the heroic things they've done. My favorite part of your community is the aggressive mindset they inculcate in crews. It does make you hard to work with sometimes (and hard to talk to), but we're here to kill not make friends. Even so, drinks on me if we meet 🥃
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2 hours ago, Biff_T said:
I heard they are replacing the 105 with a hot dog launcher.
Gunners would love it but you'd have a real issue with fratricide.
Kidding aside, I'm sure CH and other old school gunship warriors did amazing things with the 105. But since I arrived on station in 2009 they take about a dozen rounds to get on target. Unless it's containment fires in which case they kill the squirter first shot, lol. And that's fine when you're responding to a TIC with barricaded HMG ambushing eagles out on patrol... but it comes at the cost of other things which might occupy that real estate. Things that SOCOM wants more, given there aren't many eagles being ambushed on patrols, not to mention SOCOM wants out of that game permanently.
I understand the frustration with herbivores leading the command, but 3 stars work for 4 stars. This didn't originate in AFSOC without coordination between the two 4-star commands who rule them.
Since numbers were given above I'll mention: I've dropped PGMs during CAS at 7 and 15 meters from friendlies (granted the 7 meter shot had a Hesco protecting falcons); with low yield, time of fall at 20 seconds, and 1m CEP there are highly responsive options outside of a giant cannon flown so low targets break contact before you can kill them. Which, like it or not, is the gunship story during the final years of AFG.
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Whatever happened to the gunship lasers?
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9 hours ago, HeloDude said:
So the Dems supported Israel’s right to defend itself for about, what, 3.5 weeks?
Liberals are 100% consistent: they want to defend the democracy in Palestine from the first-strike tyranny of Israel. Hamas values trans-rights and Israel just wants to ban music festivals and gay people. #freeukraine
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2 hours ago, Negatory said:
Susceptibility to disinformation is a legitimate vulnerability of democratic societies. How do you fix that?
49 minutes ago, ClearedHot said:Agree, but tough to control in our society where freedom of the press it literally the very first amendment in our Constitution. I can tell you we do NOT put the government in charge like uncle Joe tried to do with the crazy show tunes singing bitch. It would be great if the press would actually act like the fourth estate and did their job...too much to ask I know.
Great discussion. Agree with the identification of misinformation being a definite threat to our society, and agree with CH on all points; Covid proved we absolutely cannot have a government sponsored disinformation effort as it will 100% lie to advance a false narrative.
As Thomas Sowell says "there are no solutions, only trade-offs." Human issues are rarely solved, they are mostly managed. Thinking like that is a good start on this problem set. In that vein, the X construct of allowing added "community notes" to provide a counter-point is a decent compromise between allowing free speech while also real-time tagging it as propaganda. We are allowed to consume both sides.
I also think long-form style interviews (Joe Rogan) are healthier to view than the news, which is either constant arguing or a series of 10 second quips lacking any depth. That style of information is no-shit rewiring our brains to make us dumber. Great book if you'd like to read more: How the news makes us dumb.
I'd love to see the fourth estate actually function & hold power accountable (on every side). But they're hard core partisans and proud of it, they even view it as their duty.
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4 hours ago, Vladimir Stalin said:
All of you are more concerned about the 2% of cases that are false accusations than the 98% that did actually happen.
FYI: in my professional experience 90% of cases are false accusations.
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21 hours ago, nsplayr said:
Literally every generation since the dawn of time has done this, and predictably most people become a bit more reasonable when their brains finish forming.
Agree, and a great reason why we shouldn't lower the voting age to 16.... as one of the parties is trying to do
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The Next President is...
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A milquetoast right candidate cannot beat Biden because they have no constituency. Look at polling in the Republican side right now, the milquetoast candidates have no chance.
i'm not voting for Mitt Romney or any of that ilk, they cannot fix the problems that exist in this country. I know you don't think it's a smart thing for me to vote for people I want to vote for, but if you pretend to give a fuck about democracy you kinda have to accept the agree to disagree approach to life. But that is not the way with Democrats, it is obey or be punished.