pawnman

Funny, but there's no PRP in the B-1

I get what you're saying, but the video represents a shift away from "everyone is equal, everyone is a warrior" towards "aviators actually are special, and they represent the core mission of the service"

Yeah, the result of no one in my year group has been the B-1 community picking people from younger year groups to set them up for school/staff. Also, can't believe you're going to put a fellow officer in blast without so much as a source. Jesus.

At Dyess, we have one combat squadron and the FTU (two flying squadrons). We do have the WPS, but I'm not a WIC grad. We also have the Test squadron, but again, tough to get under the RMD because they're considered staff jobs.

There are DO jobs if you can get out of your community. I've been told I'm too valuable as an instructor to leave my airframe for the last 6 years. We only have two flying squadrons and the OSS at my base.

Well, if it makes y'all feel better, I'm not in a DO position, and the OG/CC looked at me like I had a dick on my forehead when I asked if DO was a possibility after leaving my current job.

Reddit users meet with CMSAF So, those same Redditors who asked questions during the AMA were invited to the Pentagon to talk face-to-face with Chief Wright. This link is a summary from one of the attendees.

I guess we'll have to wait and find out what happens to him to know if this is "what's right with the Air Force" or "what's wrong with the Air Force".

The Air Force announces new officer categories Tl;Dr: 1. Air Operations and Special Warfare (all rated officers and the 13L folks) 2. Nuclear and missile operations 3. Space operations 4. Information Warfare 5. Support 6. Force Modernization - developmental engineers, acquisitions, etc

My experience is the opposite. People who stay in the community and become experts in the B-1 usually don't do as well as people who do literally anything else - UPT, ALO, staff, etc.

Do your communities not have a Flt/CC OTQ award along with CGO, FGO, etc?

So, instead of using the 1206s to judge award winners, you decided the winners then wrote the 1206. Isn't that exactly the kind of thing we complain about in the assignment and promotion system? I'm also curious... Who wrote the Flt/CC awards if no one wrote their own?

Yeah, without the CVR that should have been easy to explain away. "Well, sir, down here we were in a standard figure-8 holding pattern to maximize our sensors downrage. Then we pushed into the target, got lit up, and performed an immediate egress to reset in the marshal." But with the CVR...

Yes. That 30 minutes every three months will really erode their tactical proficiency. Again, this is why the support officers outperform flyers on promotion boards. Because flyers scoff the things that promotion boards value. Those LTs writing 1206s are 1. getting some form of recognition from their boss every quarter and 2. learning to write 1206s so that when they are the FLT/CC or ADO, they can polish their subordinates' 1206s to a fine glow. We've already seen one person advocating for submitting others for awards...I don't know about y'all, but I haven't often seen someone submit a 1206 for a person outside their chain of command. Finally, I'll say it again...you're also screwing over your SQ/CCE, who has to submit these awards to the SQ/CC and the OG/CC by a certain date, by just refusing to write them. If everyone in the squadron thought the way you guys do, it wouldn't be a refreshing experience for the SQ/CC. He'd be embarrassed at every OG staff meeting. "Not one of your people was good enough to submit for an award this quarter? Not a single one? What kind of squadron are you running over there?"

Oh good, two more years of investigations, followed by analysis broken down along party lines.

Yep. That IG guidance now applies to all officer promotions, even the 100% ones.

Good luck. That's a pretty good record. Even if you don't make it this year, it looks like a pretty sure thing for next year's board.

Like I said, I'll be happy to generate 1206s for others when I have anyone in my category that is in my shop/squadron. In my IG job, I'm the only major and the only other FGO is my Lt Col boss, who actively encourages all of us to submit a 1206 for every category we can compete in - FGO, SNCO, NCO, and civilian. If and when I move back to a squadron with multiple O-4s in it, and with CGOs that I can actually help by writing 1206s for, I will.

Looking at a SURF to determine a next job is one thing, but getting promoted is another. Every PRF I've seen (granted, all changing with this two-line PRF in the future) included the number of awards won in that top "summary" line in some fashion. Every OPR I've ever had included the number of awards (CGO, WSO, instructor, FLT/CC, etc) somewhere on it, usually in the rater's bottom line. If you were on a promotion board and had two records that were comparable in every other way - similar strats, similar jobs, similar number of combat hours and/or people supervised...but one had a dozen awards over the whole career, and the other had no awards, which one are you picking for promotion? I also advise all the young LTs going through the school house to write a 1206 every quarter. At the major level, your commander should know you personally, at least in the flying community. But at the LT level, your commander probably has less interaction with you. Writing a 1206 every quarter puts your accomplishments in front of the boss four times a year, making it easier for him to write the bottom line on that OPR once a year.

What you're saying would absolutely make sense if I were in a squadron, with other FGOs under me or in my shop. I'm not... I'm competing against guys like the chief of flight safety, JAG, DS if he wants to submit... Plus, I think this is a reason why rated officers don't get promoted at the same rate as non-rated officers... We actively discourage one another from getting recognition for good work. Execs solicit award nominations, and 90% of the flyers actively avoid writing a 1206 unless ordered to.

Well guys, thanks for the support. I used to view this forum as a place to get the kind of honest feedback and insight that senior leadership refuses to give you in person. But I guess we're down to mocking anyone who wants to get promoted and/or stay in the Air Force one day past their ADSC. And we wonder why so few good people become senior leaders. I submit that part of the reason is that we heap scorn on anyone who wants to be senior leaders, so the "good dudes" feel like that can't remain good dudes and play the promotion game. Sorry for responding to a direct question with a direct answer. Good luck to those who want to get promoted, and good luck to those who want out as soon as possible. I don't understand why any of you continue to encourage people to join on the other parts of the forum.

Hey Bashi - Go fuck yourself. Here we are trying to compare records, trying to decipher the promotion system, trying to honestly answer the questions we're asked, and you want to shit on people who put their cards in the table.

No, I think my P was a consequence of my WG/CC having zero DPs to give. If he thought I was a douche, I don't think I would have gotten a top 10% FGO strat or a "Super P".

I'm sure there are, but I don't exactly see either countries in the region clamoring to have nuclear weapons they don't own trucked inside their borders.

Seems like removing nukes from the area is counter to our current goal of challenging Russia in the region.