pawnman

Yeah, no problem. I don't think it's common unless you're deploying to a place where it's still prevalent. But it is a vaccine I was required to get that carried a temporary DNIF. I could be mistaken... doesn't even the annual flu vaccine have a verbal DNIF period? Like 12 hours or something? Or I could be thinking something else...

I'm not a geopolitical expert... but I do not see the current regime, with the budget problems, immigration problems, and public health problems they're facing, coming off a military loss widely characterized as a disaster, intervening on Taiwan's behalf. I don't think they will believe the juice is worth the squeeze... not in military losses, not in the international community, not in the markets.

I definitely got one before my first deployment to AUAB.

Pretty sure I was DNIF for 24/48 hours after smallpox.

Reduce =/= prevent.

"Ethnic slurs are cool as long as it's a threat country".

Oh good, we're back to this. I bet your EO office could help you understand the nuance.

Amen

Last story I saw had 94% of the Air Force getting at least one dose of the vaccine. So few and far between would be my guess.

Guess so. This is the first time here on the forums I've seen someone use a blatant slur...I guess I was a little taken aback at how many people jumped in to defend it as "Chinese isn't a race".

Plus they already fail part C. The Pfizer vaccine isn't an emergency use authorization anymore.

That's where we are. I feel like some of the posters have become the super old GS civilian when forced into the diversity training... which apparently we need more than I thought.

Yeah, and I'd definitely tell grampa it wasn't OK to use ethnic slurs related to either the Japanese or Vietnamese. What's your point?

It's scaring me to think we have this many officers who think they can willfully disobey lawful orders by calling their superiors authoritarians.

My point is that it shows why people who have recovered from covid should still get vaccinated. Slightly off-topic: 94% of the Air and Space Force have gotten at least one shot. https://www.military.com/daily-news/2021/09/29/94-air-force-vaccine-reluctance-falls-away-deadline-approaches.html

So...15%. And out of what denominator? If 100% of the population were vaccinated, 100% of covid deaths would be from vaccinated people. This statistic isn't helpful without the vaccination rates.

Except that even having taken the vaccine...I'm still at risk of all the unvaccinated people piled into the hospitals. If I get into a car accident, and there's no available beds...I could easily die in the waiting room. And people want to keep bringing up "obesity" doing the same thing...hospitals were not overrun with obese people in February of 2020. They weren't denying care due to obese people occupying every available ICU bed. They weren't shipping people across state lines because obese people were sucking up all available resources.

I can't get obese by being in a room with an obese person. I can get covid by being in a room with someone who has covid. See the difference?

Like Covid?

Noted. They've got a lawful order. They can follow it, or they can get out. Those are the choices. And it's not about my promotion...it's about caring for the people I've been entrusted with, cadets who are smarter, more motivated, in better shape, and more creative than I ever was. Watching those people get punted before their career even starts, while watching a bunch of grown ass men weep about a vaccine that both my elderly step dad and my teenager took without bitching...well, that's what makes me upset. Hope your guys get the counseling they need to get through this.

One more time with the Kentucky study that shows you're more than twice as likely to get reinfected without the vaccine as you are with it...your "natural immunity" is not as good as the vaccine. https://www.cdc.gov/mmwr/volumes/70/wr/mm7032e1.htm

BMI is certainly a factor. But right now, by a huge margin, the number one factor that determines whether you end up hospitalized with Covid or riding it out in your own bed is vaccination status. And it's a lot easier to get a vaccine than to lose a bunch of weight. And losing weight doesn't reduce the spread. Vaccines do. So do masks.

I hope you're right. Last year we cut almost half the cadets from ROTC because we were up against officer manning numbers. If enough officers don't get the vaccine, maybe we can get back to the 80-90% selection rates of yesteryear.

Go ahead and find a part where I advocate for more gun control. Just because I disagree with you about military vaccination mandates doesn't mean I'm diametrically opposed to every opinion you have.

Really? It "costs" you more to put on a mask today than it did 6, 12, or 18 months ago?