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Skelator!! That photo is a GREAT find.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ronald_Fogleman https://www.nytimes.com/1997/07/29/us/criticism-over-blast-leads-top-air-force-general-to-retire.html July 30, 1997 As my tenure as your Chief of Staff ends, I want to tell you what an honor and a privilege it has been to represent everyone in the United States Air Force. The timing of my announcement was driven by the desire to defuse the perceived confrontation between myself and the Secretary of Defense over his impending decision on the Khobar Towers terrorist attack. The decision to retire was made after considerable deliberation over the past several weeks. On one level, I’ve always said that my serving as the Chief of Staff was a “tour” not a “sentence” and that I would leave when I made all the contributions that I could. After I accepted this position in 1994, I met with other senior leaders of the Air Force to discuss our goals for my tenure. We wanted to take care of the troops and their families, to stabilize the force, to set a course for modernization, and to develop a new strategic vision. During some difficult and challenging times, we have worked hard to accomplish that and more. Certainly there is more to be done, but the framework of the plan and the leadership [are] in place to move forward with the support and efforts of the magnificent men and women of our Air Force. On another level, military service is the only life I have ever known. My stock in trade after 34 years of service is my military judgment and advice. After serving as Chief of Staff for almost three years, my values and sense of loyalty to our soldiers, sailors, marines, and especially our airmen led me to the conclusion that I may be out of step with the times and some of the thinking of the establishment. This puts me in an awkward position. If I were to continue to serve as Chief of Staff of the Air Force and speak out, I could be seen as a divisive force and not a team player. I do not want the Air Force to suffer for my judgment and convictions. In my view, this would happen if I continue as your Chief. For these reasons I have decided to retire and devote more time to personal interests and my family, … but the Air Force will always be in my thoughts. [My wife] and I have met a lot of wonderful American servicemen and -women—active duty, Guard, Reserve, civilians, and family members—and they will continue to be a part of our lives. We have been proud to represent the men and women of the United States Air Force around the globe and to serve in the finest Air Force in the world. God bless and keep you all as you continue to serve this great nation.

Congrats. That's the airplane I'd most like to own right now.

You're going to have to do something more to entice me to come back out of retirement... again.

I'm kind of curious to see how Amazon's airlift plans are affected. Probably nothing crazy. But I'm still interested to see how they react. No, Karl, I don't know Jeff B.

Yes. Some base/equipment/seats have been offered 50 hours of pay to take the month off.

Update: UAL just cancelled the 3 March Indoc class. I’d tell you where I heard it, but if I “name drop”, Karl Hungus will be triggered.

No.

Fake news. I’ve seen this since 1995. Yawn 🥱

No, Karl, you're wrong. To address your point, I do not know the IATA codes for most airlines. Yet I am someone who could potentially provide him the feedback he desires as I am friends with very senior people at two of those airlines, including a pilot who is single-digit seniority at one of them and another who is involved with hiring. The OP can accept my critique or not. It was offered as feedback to help, not to make him feel good. And whether he accepts my critique or not is of no consequence to you.

I understand, however realize that many military pilots here go direct to one of the big 6, and don’t grow up in 121 regionals. I had to look up two of the airlines you abbreviated, and yet I was hired by United long ago. Want help? Know your audience.

F9, B6, and NK. Most here don’t know what that means, so I recommend you spell it out. This isn’t APC, and a few extra key strokes might make a difference.

There are a multitude of problems with the entire evolution. A couple of the very minor ones are: - it wasn't an airshow. - it wasn't waivered airspace.

I had not given that much thought, but you are probably correct. Good point.

As with many things "airline", beauty is in the eye of the beholder.

The only related fact I've seen is the that status of the crew has not been officially reported. We shall see what the morning news cycle has to say.

The TBM is a nice plane. But for $4M, I just don't get why so many owners don't go with a twin-turbine.

If it is necessary to get to a military retirement... especially one where you don’t have to wait until 60 years old to collect... I wouldn’t be so quick to dismiss it. I find my retirement to be very valuable

One could argue UAL is an unknown due to Scott Kirby. The guy is brilliant. He understands the competition... and my understanding is that he probably has a bit of drive to crush AA for personal reasons. He also knows a lot of their secrets. If he doesn't get sideways with the unions, there is a lot of potential with him. A lot. Many think he's the smartest leader in the industry.

New jet, new day.

It's an anonymous forum. At least for you. What wing is this?

Rather than reinvent the wheel, I have a request... I would like a copy of an ejection seat briefing guide that is given to pax. I don't mean the classroom briefing guide that the pilot briefs before the flight, but more what an egress instructor gives a pax during their seat training before the flight.... discussing seat position, canopy jettison, post ejection, etc... Obviously I don't need specifics to a particular kind of jet. I would just like the overall items so that I don't forget to include anything on the one I'm writing, which will be specific to the aircraft I'm working with. Hard copy, electronic... if it isn't that many pages, you can just photograph them and text them to me. PM me and I'll give you my contact info. Appreciate it.

12 hours at United as of last year.

If they hit Al Asad, it would definitely improve the place.

Why do "they" think that typing everything on the NOTAMS in CAPS makes it easier to read?