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Fair enough, allow me to amend my statement: Clearly he's not an airlift pilot. I know many tanker pilot that I like. I also know for a fact that airlift and tanker mentalities are distinctly different. They both go push hard to hack missions, but they hack very different missions with very different users. Airlift pilots (my perspective being as a 20 year C-130 guy) interface daily with all ages, all ranks, and most services. We get to taste the how and why of pretty much every corner of the military with few exceptions. That allows the opportunity to gain a broad perspective. Granted not all of us take that opportunity, but it's there nonetheless. From an airlifter's perspective, our community was screwed over by more than one tanker pilot commander trying to run airlift units like tanker units...(which incidentally was the only time I ever experienced an open ranks inspection after basic, thanks two tanker O-6's who's names I shall not repeat, but I digress)...which has left a long-standing scar tissue in the memory of many a herk driver. In the end I said what I said. Ratner sounds like he thinks his perspective as a pilot is one we all share, when in fact it is not. It's been a trend these past few days over several threads: The air India crash was caused by a bad FO, then pilots should shut down motors in response to events they can't even physically see, now pilots need to understand the importance of discipline because we live in a bubble and don't understand the rest of the military. Wrong on all fronts. Three times is a trend.

Obviously you're not a mobility pilot. You sound more like an eagle driver who's only interaction with E's was when you yelled at your crew chief. Another swing and a miss. Many AF pilots are intimately familiar with actively leading 18 year-old aircrew, maintainers, and support troops. Talk to any AC who's taking crewed aircraft on a 3 week trip or any major who's been a detco for weeks on end. Your experience is not everyone else's. Maybe come out of your echo chamber. I've worked indepth with many marines. They agree: Open ranks inspections are worthless outside of boot camp. They pursue discipline in far more functional and useful ways.

...or just continue being a spaz...your call

I'm rooting for all the soccer moms who drive that highway daily. The fact that dude said he was brand new on that bike makes him all the more idiotic.

What aircraft do you fly? Literally no one here is saying they should have continued. We're saying that this happened so fast and most likely outside the view of the pilots that by the time they saw anything they could not have reacted fast enough. Most likely is that the pilots were completely dependent on comms from the ground/ops/or plugged in ground crew while this was happening You are making wild inferences. Stop being a spaz.

He's making the point that if the pilots had toggled the engines as soon as that guy approached the plane it would have made no difference given the time-span of this event. Those motors would still be spinning plenty fast enough to chop a skull. Hence him saying: "Engines don't exactly stop on a dime with shutdown." It has nothing to do with his attitude about the guy and more about recognition of physics. Stop trying blame pilots for things they can't control. They likely couldn't see anything until it was all over. If you've sat in a pilot's seat, you'd know that. You you this ignorant in real life, or are you just a Nav? Friggin' tourist

Reverse your roles. FO was pilot flying and he queried the CA about the motors, who denied taking any action, despite the recorded events on the box saying each switch was cycled off then on. Having encountered enough Indian aircrews, I can readily imagine a senior CA denying any error. I can imagine a few senior CA I've flown with in the USA doing the same. Ego gets strong with some.

That video has Little Rock painted all over it. From the guy on the bike to the reckless endangerment and emotive and aggressive unprofessionalism of the cop. But hey, the biker started it, so what's a little more reckless endangerment matter if it works, right?

There'll be a lot of dated info around here, but in general it depends on the circumstances of how you depart UPT. If you DOR (request your way out) you likely have a better chance of getting the job you want vs if you get washed out. I've known guys who DOR'd, got washed out, and even dudes that got FEB'd later in their careers and departed the flying world. Some became JAGs, missileers, and acquisitions officers. I would not go into UPT focused on what happens if you fail. If you genuinely don't like it, then you can quit and the world won't come to and end. If you try and hedge by quitting before you get washed out...well...don't do that. You won't be in a good position to judge just how well or poorly you're doing. Hang tough on this topic for a week or two and let those who are currently IPs in the training system chime in. They have busy lives and can't always get to the page immediately, but they will show up.

Meh. More proof that China has finally entered the 80's.

It would appear the X-32 is still out there spreading her DNA about.

An F-4 with canards is the airplane equivalent of Robin Olds declaring he has pronouns.

BQZip's mom always did have a way with words

My parents do...it's simultaneously depressing and entertaining when they bring up his talking points.