stuckindayton

I second this. It's not a job interview so wear something comfortable.

Unless your eyes get worse, you more than likely will meet the standard of -3.00 if you are wearing -3.25 contacts. It has to do with the way the measurement is made (using drops to relax the focusing muscles and stopping when you can read 20/20 not when the letters are perfect, i.e. 20/15 or 20/10). Obviously PRK or LASIK is an option if you want to avoid all chances of busting, but you'd probably be OK as is.

If you are Guard getting treated by a civilian provider, the process should be pretty easy. You need to have the following documents completed: 1) Commander's authorization, 2) Co-management agreement signed by either your ANG optometry or flight doc, 3) The application itself which needs to be signed on the front page by your flight doc and on the second page by your treating surgeon and 4) A managed care agreement signed by your treating surgeon essentially stating that they will take responsibility for your follow-up care. I'm no longer working at Wright-Patterson so I don't have all the links and forms at my fingertips, but I can certainly get you a number(s) to call and contact those people who do. There is a website that is supposed to walk you through the process, but I personally always like to talk to humans vice computers.

The techs really won't be able to give you a good timeline other than a WAG. Once the physical leaves Wright-Patt and goes to AETC, everyone at Wright-Patt pretty much loses visibility. Until it gets signed by AETC, it's just pending. There are no interim updates. They certainly can find out if it's been signed, but until then it's a big black hole for everyone.

When I left several months ago I heard it was more like 4-6 weeks and that AETC was way behind (COVID?) so it could be even longer.

I PM'd you.

If you are hired to fly an airplane that's similar to what you previously flew (i.e. fixed wing to fixed wing, fighter to fighter, heavy to heavy), then you should most likely be considered a Flying Class II (trained pilot), although sometimes the AF waffles on that so there's no guarantees. But, I would expect they would treat you as a trained asset which means that your medical standards are MUCH less stringent than those who have never flown and have to attend UPT. I've seen fellas with some major eye problems get out and then get rehired a few years later with no problems. But, it's the AF and it's always a bit of a roll of the dice.

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Congrats. As Mover says "Make them tell you no!"....and then ask again.

If you PM me your info I should be able to get you your scores.

Maybe, where did you take the test?

50 versus 55 is a small margin in terms of the CCT, but almost everyone who scores below a 55 with one or both eyes ends up being a moderate color deficient on more in-depth testing. So, personally, I would not really consider it a "small margin", but the AF only cares about the CCT.

There have been some ETPs and even some waivers granted for people who are below on only one eye by a very small margin, but I can't give you any rhyme or reason who gets them and who doesn't. While they have happened, I think it was the exception, not the rule.

The process for Guard folks is no different than AD folks. If you are full-time ANG (on orders for more than 6 months) you can still get it for free at an AF facility (I think they are up and running now, but wouldn't swear to it). If you are not full-time, it's on your dime as you said. You may be asking why you still need to go through the formal process if you are going to a civilian provider and paying out of pocket. It's due to DoD policy that requires prior approval before any elective procedure, even if off base. What would be the consequences if you bypassed the process and just went downtown? Probably not much except that the AF would have no obligations to help you get fixed and could separate you if something disasterous happened (which I've never heard of personally).

The post-op schedule applies to current military members getting LASIK/PRK. If you are not on military orders, disregard this. Basically, just send your pre-op, op report and any post-op reports to Wright-Patt on the forms your civilian doctor provides and you'll be fine.

It changed a year or two ago.

6/12 on the DP test would be a different test than the one used at FC I. I actually don't know any DP test that uses 12. B is the passing line for FC I now (used to be D). The new standard is MUCH easier.

OK, thank you.

Question for the group. When arriving at a new duty station, e.g. UPT, are you required to either quarantine for 14 days or be screened for CV? Is your departing location considered in this decision? Thanks for any info.

Each eye, each cone type. So a total of six scores (right eye red, green, blue; left eye red, green, blue). All have to be 55 or above.

I cleaned out some space.

Waiver guide is here. https://www.wpafb.af.mil/Portals/60/documents/711/usafsam/USAF-Waiver-Guide-200513.pdf I don't have a public URL for the current MSD.

Yes.

I haven't heard if they've changed the max height restriction, but there are certainly limits for sitting height and butt to knee (with some wiggle room with waivers). The latter limit being related to lower leg injuries in the event of ejection from certain aircraft.

Fair enough. My point is that when used properly gloves can be a benefit. It's like a seat belt. Just because you are wearing it doesn't make you immune to injury. You still have to use common sense.