chizz Posted May 9, 2014 Share Posted May 9, 2014 I used ptdy for my last interview. Don't know about the current guidance being in a reg but it was in a psdm that you didn't get it and then they sent out a clarification memo via email a couple weeks saying you do. If you PM me your work email I will try and hunt down the guidance and shoot it to you. If you are Oconus you get 30! "You never have too much gas...unless you're on fire" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stract Posted May 9, 2014 Share Posted May 9, 2014 So the way I read it you only are eligible for the 20 days of PTDY if you're VSPing or retiring, not just regular-guy separating...that check? No, you are definitely eligible for the 20 days PTDY with a regular separation. Remember the fine print as mentioned above, and the same goes for terminal leave, that it's CC discretion. You CAN take your PTDY back-to-back with your terminal leave (if approved). As long as your CC is going to give you the full 20 days, just back up your final out date to DOS - terminal leave (you also accrue leave while you are on leave, so factor that in, too) - PTDY = Final Out. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
32off Posted May 9, 2014 Share Posted May 9, 2014 Any other 2003 11Ms out there who are still waiting for vsp notification? Don't know if I should be somewhat optimistic or realistic that my denial has just not been sent yet. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HoHum Posted May 9, 2014 Share Posted May 9, 2014 So it's Friday, anyone have odds on whether we hear anything at all today? "We find it's always better to fire people on a Friday. Studies have statistically shown that there's less chance of an incident if you do it at the end of the week." Given that this endeavor has broken every deadline and suspense we've known, and probably a couple more - It'll be next Friday. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tunes Posted May 9, 2014 Share Posted May 9, 2014 What reg is that written in? It goes against everything we've been told since December. It's something I need to see to believe. Not saying I'm doubting you, just verifying. Its also in the q&a dated 6 may. Posted from the NEW Baseops.net App! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tunes Posted May 9, 2014 Share Posted May 9, 2014 and another week has come and gone at afpc Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sky_king Posted May 10, 2014 Share Posted May 10, 2014 how long does it take afpc to cut orders? In my experience, about 3 days after the 7th time you've called to complain. 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
secfo12 Posted May 10, 2014 Share Posted May 10, 2014 cant take ptdy without orders Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nsplayr Posted May 10, 2014 Share Posted May 10, 2014 (edited) I used ptdy for my last interview. Don't know about the current guidance being in a reg but it was in a psdm that you didn't get it and then they sent out a clarification memo via email a couple weeks saying you do. If you PM me your work email I will try and hunt down the guidance and shoot it to you. If you are Oconus you get 30! "You never have too much gas...unless you're on fire" Yea, thanks man but no need...the interview is in the past and I took leave to attend so no biggie. Pay it forward to the next dude. No, you are definitely eligible for the 20 days PTDY with a regular separation. Remember the fine print as mentioned above, and the same goes for terminal leave, that it's CC discretion. You CAN take your PTDY back-to-back with your terminal leave (if approved). As long as your CC is going to give you the full 20 days, just back up your final out date to DOS - terminal leave (you also accrue leave while you are on leave, so factor that in, too) - PTDY = Final Out. Humm...doesn't seem like that's the case from the reg (36-3003): "12.8. PTDY Not Authorized. Unit commander cannot authorize PTDY if a member requests PTDY to (this list is not all-inclusive): 12.8.1. Search for a house or search for a job when the separation program designator (SPD) code renders member ineligible for full benefits and services under AFI 36-3009, Airman and Family Readiness Centers, (for example, a member voluntarily separating for miscellaneous reasons or on completion of required active service)." I'm guessing I'd fall under the "completion of required active service" SPD code since I'm just regular-guy leaving when my commitment is up. Has anyone had luck getting that PTDY approved in that same situation (i.e. not PC or VSP?). I'd love to either just have 20 more days of freedom or to keep my DOS the same and profit from selling 20 days of leave rather than taking them as terminal if it's all kosher. Edited May 10, 2014 by nsplayr Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stract Posted May 10, 2014 Share Posted May 10, 2014 (edited) nsplayr, yes, that was my situ. Finished my ADSC and punched a few months after. I got PTDY, but I took some of it before my final out. who knows if it was right or not, but when scheduling my final out date finance even asked if I was taking any PTDY in conjunction with terminal. BTW, can't find any references in the A&FRC reg (36-3009) about how separatees are coded. But the AFI was more recently revised, so the leave guidance could be outdated... Edited May 10, 2014 by stract Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chizz Posted May 11, 2014 Share Posted May 11, 2014 PM me, I'll shoot u the email and fwd it to the ISR or commander. What's the worse they can say, no? "You never have too much gas...unless you're on fire" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mish_Hacker Posted May 12, 2014 Share Posted May 12, 2014 The tenth day since the VSP window closed has ended, predictably, without any more VSP approvals.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dustin Dollaz Posted May 12, 2014 Share Posted May 12, 2014 Hey guys, I'm currently isolated from society in SWA and my community (which is disolving in FY15) just got hit with a short notice suspense for RFF packages. This also comes on the heels of a request for ADPs. Do they really need this stuff or are they trying to get me to throw down my cards? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MooseAg03 Posted May 12, 2014 Share Posted May 12, 2014 Hey guys, I'm currently isolated from society in SWA and my community (which is disolving in FY15) just got hit with a short notice suspense for RFF packages. This also comes on the heels of a request for ADPs. Do they really need this stuff or are they trying to get me to throw down my cards? I'm guessing 11R? If you've been following the force shaping fiasco since it started in Dec of '13, the RRF requirement shouldn't surprise you. Everyone who is in an overage AFSC and year group meeting the RIF board will have to do one. There are a lot of us on this board who showed our cards back in February expecting a quick answer to VSP (applications "processed in batches approximately every 30 days") before the RIF which was swiftly postponed until Oct. To answer your question, yes they really need the stuff. New VSP window opens 22 May, check out the FY15 RIF PSDM on myPers. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
deaddebate Posted May 12, 2014 Share Posted May 12, 2014 Also, according to a c17 guy who is outprocessing under vsp, he can only take 60 days of terminal, so he's burning through some leave now instead of being able to take it in one big chunk.Also, if you have 70 days of leave then thats when you start your terminal, how can they tell you you cant take it all at once?? Makes no sense.I've been seeing this as a unit policy, not a standard from any personnelist. It generally looks like (NC)OIC's are trying to manage their manpower with the mission and prevent people from leaving within 30 days of notification. Can anybody verify that all leave, including terminal, needs Commander approval? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
trav8933 Posted May 12, 2014 Share Posted May 12, 2014 Has anyone written their congressman about the delay of these applications? I heard from a co-worker that she got a quick response (after a pro-longed no response) to withdraw her TERA application after contacting her congressman. Might be a fast track to disapproval, who knows. '04 11M Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nsplayr Posted May 12, 2014 Share Posted May 12, 2014 Can anybody verify that all leave, including terminal, needs Commander approval? AFI 36-3003 section 6.7.1 "Terminal leave approval. Unit commanders approve terminal leave." Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Herk Driver Posted May 12, 2014 Share Posted May 12, 2014 Can anybody verify that all leave, including terminal, needs Commander approval? Nsplayr already got the terminal part...ordinary leave can be approved by supervisors. Posted from the NEW Baseops.net App! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tunes Posted May 12, 2014 Share Posted May 12, 2014 And another deadline comes and goes Posted from the NEW Baseops.net App! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fozzy Bear Posted May 12, 2014 Share Posted May 12, 2014 Is there any news or ideas as to a real timeline from the AF leadership, regarding approvals/denials? Posted from the NEW Baseops.net App! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lumbergh Posted May 12, 2014 Share Posted May 12, 2014 (edited) And another deadline comes and goes Posted from the NEW Baseops.net App! Was there a deadline that was supposed to happen today? I had heard "mid May" or May 15th as one. I fully expect to be disappointed in 3 more days. I just want to make sure there's not a reason to be disappointed now. You have to spread it out a little bit. Edited May 12, 2014 by Lumbergh Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Checks Posted May 12, 2014 Share Posted May 12, 2014 Yea, I called TFSC again today and the theme I keep hearing is "mid-May." I also went through the PSDM trying to find a deadline, but couldn't find anything solid. FML. Posted from the NEW Baseops.net App! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tunes Posted May 12, 2014 Share Posted May 12, 2014 Didn't psdm say 10 days Posted from the NEW Baseops.net App! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Checks Posted May 12, 2014 Share Posted May 12, 2014 Didn't psdm say 10 days Posted from the NEW Baseops.net App! I couldn't find that, not sure if someone has that reference. Posted from the NEW Baseops.net App! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mish_Hacker Posted May 12, 2014 Share Posted May 12, 2014 I couldn't find that, not sure if someone has that reference. Posted from the NEW Baseops.net App! The mypers website says notifications will occur by"approximately ten days after the window closes." Nothing beats an "approximate" deadline. They probably meant 10 business days... Stupid us Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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