FY 14 Force Management Program (RIF, VSP, TERA)

[bjax]

Dissaproved 07 11M working RPA position

[MooseAg03]

2007 11M doing RPAs at Creech just got my disapproval. FML

[2flyagainsoon]

TERA approved

11M (130J) @LRF

UPT ADSC 2017

06 year group

Just over 19 yrs total with my E time

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[bjax]

Already filled out FY15s, will submit tomorrow.

[Snuggie]

I know of at least 3 other 2008 11Ms who got approved for VSP. Two are -135 guys and one is a C-17 (I think). I can't tell you their ADSCs, I'm just passing along what I've seen on Facebook.

[Xtndr]

This is hilarious- I was on the phone with TFSC asking about how to apply for FY15 VSP tomorrow without a FY14 approval or denial, when a denial email appeared in my inbox.

Me: 'you know what, never mind. I just got a denial email.'

TFSC: 'no ma'am, that's from me. That's an email we send to customers when they call with questions.'

Me: 'no, it's an email telling me my application was denied.'

TFSC: 'are you sure? It's not showing that in CMS...'

Unbelievable! I should've PC'd earlier, I hope it's not too late...

'06 11M, ~4 years UPT ADSC, KC-10

[Chuck17]

I will say that being stuck in the C-17/RPA flesh trade made my decision easy.

Lotta' that going around... You have my sympathy, and my congratulations, brother.

Chuck

[BoneIP]

So if my year group/AFSC/RTDM is closed out is there any sense in applying for FY15 VSP?

[FLY6584]

Never received an e-mail, but when I check my "previous application" under "self service actions" it said the following:

"The Air Force Personnel Center has approved the maximum allowable voluntary

applications for your AFSC/grade/year group/RDTM code or specific weapon

system, or your AFSC/grade/year group has been removed from eligibility for

this year's programs due to adjustments to manpower requirements. Based on

this action, your application has been returned. As a result, you and other

Airmen in your AFSC/grade/year group are no longer eligible for any FY14

voluntary or involuntary force management programs."

So does that mean we are eligible for the FY15 programs such as the VSP/RIF? You would think a phone call to the TFSC would answer this question, but no surprise they haven't a clue. It figures AFPC would release more confusing information like this right before the FY15 VSP is supposed to open. Does anyone proofread shit at AFPC before sending it out?!?!?!?!

[Dreamkiller43]

Anyone with approved VSP apps going to try to push their separation date past September? As eager as I am to leave, having a couple extra months to get my life together would certainly help.

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[FBomb]

Any bets on when AFPC releases the PSDMs for the FY15 VSP seeing as tomorrow the new window opens?

Edited May 21, 2014 by FBomb

[chizz]

H-model IP

[krazyivan]

Denied. 04 11S

If the next round has a blue block for my year group I'm going to have some words with AFPC....

[Cornholio5]

Any word on any '03 VSP approvals yet?

[bjax]

Any bets on when AFPC releases the PSDMs for the FY15 VSP seeing as tomorrow the new window opens?

FBomb, here is a link. The matrices and other related information was posted about two weeks ago. As you will notice the 04 and 05 year groups are grayed out. Weird how looking at this site it seems like most of the people approved were in those year groups and the matrices were posted well before the VSP results.

So I have hope for the next round of cuts.

https://gum-crm.csd.disa.mil/app/answers/detail/a_id/27606/related/1

[FBomb]

FBomb, here is a link. The matrices and other related information was posted about two weeks ago. As you will notice the 04 and 05 year groups are grayed out. Weird how looking at this site it seems like most of the people approved were in those year groups and the matrices were posted well before the VSP results.

So I have hope for the next round of cuts.

https://gum-crm.csd.disa.mil/app/answers/detail/a_id/27606/related/1

Old news. I'm looking for the PSDM that 14-38 references as the guidance for the VSP window to open tomorrow. As usual, AFPC does not fail to disappoint on the promise to meet a suspense.

Edit: Ok just checked, new FY15 VSP and TERA PSDMs are on MyPers. Only looked at the VSP program, basically a clone of the FY14 VSP with the same ADSC waivers, etc. As bjax pointed out, the documents all refer to the RIF slides, but they are still dated 02 May. Good luck all.

Edited May 21, 2014 by FBomb

[MooseAg03]

So if my year group/AFSC/RTDM is closed out is there any sense in applying for FY15 VSP?

Good question. Who wants to go through 6 more months of getting jerked around if they aren't going to cut any more? However, the SECAF's recent words allude to more cuts than what we are seeing right now.

We had discussion a while back about the limited funds available for Force Shaping this fiscal year. The budget is much larger next year. I'm not sure we can rely on AFPC to update the matrices in time for the next VSP window so I have no idea what to do. The uncertainty over the past few months almost made my wife kill me.

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[flying_bulldog]

'07 11R (U2) denied. Standard ADSCs (UPT, PCS).

[outlaw05]

2006 11m (C-130J); Denied...

[chim richalds]

I wish they'd release what made the difference in approving or not. Looks like if you have ever stepped foot in a c-17 you are cleared off automatically.

[BoneIP]

Good question. Who wants to go through 6 more months of getting jerked around if they aren't going to cut any more? However, the SECAF's recent words allude to more cuts than what we are seeing right now.

We had discussion a while back about the limited funds available for Force Shaping this fiscal year. The budget is much larger next year. I'm not sure we can rely on AFPC to update the matrices in time for the next VSP window so I have no idea what to do. The uncertainty over the past few months almost made my wife kill me.

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I would also like to know if I am still eligible for FY14 palace chase since the email said I am no longer eligible for FY14 voluntary programs.

I sent the following to the TFSC today, it is listed as "elevated" now. not sure the source data is 100% correct, but looks like no more 11B's were selected regardless of the matrix numbers.

"How is it that zero 11B's are getting approved for separation on this final round? Your matrix had multiple 11B's in several different year groups still remaining, how can you say you met your quota without approving anyone?? Are you looking for IG complaints? is there an appeal process for VSP disapprovals??"

[sky_king]

Any of the pit students get VSP?

Yep, he was about half way through the program. He flew first go and was scheduled to fly second go, but they pulled him from the flight.

[chizz]

How do you know none of the 11Bs that applied were approved? Have you gone to every person that applied and asked what their status is? And what do you think threatening an IG complaint is going to do, make them approve people? Not everyone that was approved is going to post their status on BODN.

You have to realize that just because they weren't approved through the VSP (pay), they could have decided to simply separate. Or for someone that still has an ADSC, they could have found a job through palace chase and that will subtract from the overages as well.

[Mimpdaddy]

How many '04 approvals had already pinned on Major when they submitted their FY14 VSP applications? My guess is zero. They Dont want to pay the majors to get out. However, many '04 guys will pin on by 29 Sept and get Major pay upon separation anyways.

'04 11M

C-17 IP on white jet tour

Pinned on 1 Jan

Denied

Edited May 22, 2014 by Mimpdaddy

[audioflyer]

11R 2008 - Disapproved for VSP due to AFSC/year group being full.