Karl Hungus Posted May 16, 2014 Posted May 16, 2014 If this is in fact against his intent (I agree that it probably is), why has nobody brought this up to him? Maybe he's surrounded by yes-men? Or worse... maybe he has been told, but just doesn't care?
Fuzz Posted May 16, 2014 Posted May 16, 2014 (edited) Maybe he's surrounded by yes-men? Or worse... maybe he has been told, but just doesn't care? Considering he had to find out about the buffoonery that was going on at the time from someone at an all call at Altus, I'm going to guess it is the first. Or worse yet, he knows and has been told to shut up and color by the powers that be in which case its not going to be good. Edited May 16, 2014 by Fuzz
RescueRandy Posted May 16, 2014 Posted May 16, 2014 Pretty sure it's 1.0 for the RIF. Am I unaware of some contingency where you get paid more if you're VSP-disapproved? I read the newest PSDM to say that if you're RIFed you get 1.00. Haven't seen anything to suggest that you get 1.25 if you're RIFed.
Mish_Hacker Posted May 16, 2014 Posted May 16, 2014 I read the newest PSDM to say that if you're RIFed you get 1.00. Haven't seen anything to suggest that you get 1.25 if you're RIFed. I think people are referencing the CSAF's comments that anyone denied VSP and subsequently RIFd should receive the 1.25. However, I'm not sure AFPC listens to the Chief of Staff... or logic.
FLY6584 Posted May 16, 2014 Posted May 16, 2014 I read somewhere that if you are denied for the VSP, but then RIF'd anyways you still receive the 1.25 because you had originally applied for the VSP.
tunes Posted May 16, 2014 Posted May 16, 2014 Well let's hope today is the day Posted from the NEW Baseops.net App!
toomanyquestions Posted May 16, 2014 Posted May 16, 2014 vMPF Voluntary Separations Emails Unavailable not sure what to make this...it's one the portal homepage
FlyFox Posted May 16, 2014 Posted May 16, 2014 (edited) When you read the message on that link it specifically says enlisted Separations Office. So not sure if we (the officers) are possibly experiencing the same email problems. It's hard to say since we get zero information flow already. Edited May 16, 2014 by FlyFox
tc994a Posted May 16, 2014 Posted May 16, 2014 Hey great news - there's a new Pulse out for 16 May and ..... Still 380 officers approved Still 2400 enlisted approved Still processing The ONLY change is that the number of ineligible apps went from "over 3000" to "over 2800" . . . . . . These updates sure are great.
crwfshkid Posted May 16, 2014 Posted May 16, 2014 (edited) When you read the message on that link it specifically says enlisted Separations Office. So not sure if we (the officers) are possibly experiencing the same email problems. It's hard to say since we get zero information flow already. I called TFSC. It's not for any VSP program. It's just for normal DOS-type enlisted separations. Allegedly, we will "probably" get notified by COB today or Tuesday at the latest. Who knows. Edited May 16, 2014 by crwfshkid
Checks Posted May 16, 2014 Posted May 16, 2014 I called TFSC. It's not for any VSP program. It's just for normal DOS-type enlisted separations. Allegedly, we will "probably" get notified by COB today or Tuesday at the latest. Who know. Haha, I love TFSC...I'm pretty sure they just pay a bunch of poor GS-05s to sit in a room and tell them to guess at the answers of pissed off callers. You will "probably" hear today or Tuesday...but I mean any Tuesday... from now to the end of the year. Posted from the NEW Baseops.net App!
tc994a Posted May 16, 2014 Posted May 16, 2014 I called TFSC. It's not for any VSP program. It's just for normal DOS-type enlisted separations. Allegedly, we will "probably" get notified by COB today or Tuesday at the latest. Who knows. What happens on Monday - are they at another BBQ cook-off?
thirdcoastsurfer Posted May 16, 2014 Posted May 16, 2014 For what it's worth: my branch chief (no sq cc here in shoe-clerk land) called the officer separations branch chief yesterday afternoon and was told they were actively processing all the VSP apps yesterday and finishing up today. He said we could be notified as early as this afternoon but NLT Wednesday next week. I guess they are doing the notification process by AFSC/year-group hence the reason notifications stretch out over a few days.
Lumbergh Posted May 16, 2014 Posted May 16, 2014 (edited) For what it's worth: my branch chief (no sq cc here in shoe-clerk land) called the officer separations branch chief yesterday afternoon and was told they were actively processing all the VSP apps yesterday and finishing up today. He said we could be notified as early as this afternoon but NLT Wednesday next week. I guess they are doing the notification process by AFSC/year-group hence the reason notifications stretch out over a few days. I hope you're correct. I just called the TFSC, mainly for own twisted entertainment. Here's a brief synopsis of the conversation. My question: What's the status of my VSP app? The AFPC website said mid-May in one place and within 10 days of May 1st in another place. No matter if you look at as 10 business days or calendar days, that time has expired. (puts me on hold to look at my application status) TFSC Rep: I took a look at your application and it says it still processing right now. We don't when they're going to process it. It might be delayed for another week or two. I think there's going to be new guidance coming out possibly delaying the processing further. Me: What? TFSC Rep: Well sir, there's so many rumors and PDSMs floating around now and I can't tell you anything for certain. Me: Well, I'm also subject to the RIF in Oct and the new VSP window open next Thursday and I wouldn't be able to apply in the new VSP window because AFPC hasn't processed my first application. That would be unfair. So, there will be a new PDSM? TFSC Rep: No, no. They'll just release an amended one updating the guidance. Me: Ok. Air Force members call the TFSC to get help. We should be able to get reliable information here. Ok, right now, what can you tell me that's fact, something concrete that I can tell my family? TFSC Rep: Well, sir. Unfortunately, nothing right now. Me: Ok, thank you for your time. We've reach full retard on this process long ago. I just reread this exchange before I'm about to post it and I'm laughing hysterically. But this shit is not funny Also received this email after my phone call. Here's the official response from the email... "Thank you for contacting myPers - Total Force Service Center. All remaining VSP applications will be adjudicated after 1 May 14 to include those inspected by waiver authorities. AFPC intends to inform members of approval status not later than mid May." Enjoy! Edited May 16, 2014 by Lumbergh 1
tc994a Posted May 16, 2014 Posted May 16, 2014 They have the pool of applications. The pool of applications will not be changing - the window closed on 1 MAY. Why would they want to be changing the rules again? This does a disservice to not only the service member and their family but to their respective offices and mission as well - what boss would be assigning meaningful long-term work considering I may or may not be leaving in a month or so?
tunes Posted May 16, 2014 Posted May 16, 2014 I hope you're correct. I just called the TFSC, mainly for own twisted entertainment. Here's a brief synopsis of the conversation. My question: What's the status of my VSP app? The AFPC website said mid-May in one place and within 10 days of May 1st in another place. No matter if you look at as 10 business days or calendar days, that time has expired. (puts me on hold to look at my application status) TFSC Rep: I took a look at your application and it says it still processing right now. We don't when they're going to process it. It might be delayed for another week or two. I think there's going to be new guidance coming out possibly delaying the processing further. Me: What? TFSC Rep: Well sir, there's so many rumors and PDSMs floating around now and I can't tell you anything for certain. Me: Well, I'm also subject to the RIF in Oct and the new VSP window open next Thursday and I wouldn't be able to apply in the new VSP window because AFPC hasn't processed my first application. That would be unfair. So, there will be a new PDSM? TFSC Rep: No, no. They'll just release an amended one updating the guidance. Me: Ok. Air Force members call the TFSC to get help. We should be able to get reliable information here. Ok, right now, what can you tell me that's fact, something concrete that I can tell my family? TFSC Rep: Well, sir. Unfortunately, nothing right now. Me: Ok, thank you for your time. We've reach full retard on this process long ago. I just reread this exchange before I'm about to post it and I'm laughing hysterically. But this shit is not funny Also received this email after my phone call. Here's the official response from the email... "Thank you for contacting myPers - Total Force Service Center. All remaining VSP applications will be adjudicated after 1 May 14 to include those inspected by waiver authorities. AFPC intends to inform members of approval status not later than mid May." Enjoy! I bet if you called back you would get an entirely different answer Posted from the NEW Baseops.net App!
32off Posted May 16, 2014 Posted May 16, 2014 Lumbergh, thank you for providing me with some documentation to give my US representative later today. Enough is enough folks. It is time for afpc to answer to the taxpayers. How many lives have to be hung in the balance while afpc sweeps this crap under the rug? You all know we deserve better.
toomanyquestions Posted May 16, 2014 Posted May 16, 2014 They have the pool of applications. The pool of applications will not be changing - the window closed on 1 MAY. Why would they want to be changing the rules again? This does a disservice to not only the service member and their family but to their respective offices and mission as well - what boss would be assigning meaningful long-term work considering I may or may not be leaving in a month or so? and why they do really even need a second round...afpc ultimately can change the separation date to 1 Oct instead of 30 Sep...and bam...the fy14 rif just became the fy15 rif without another round of bs having to occur
toomanyquestions Posted May 16, 2014 Posted May 16, 2014 and why they do really even need a second round...afpc ultimately can change the separation date to 1 Oct instead of 30 Sep...and bam...the fy14 rif just became the fy15 rif without another round of bs having to occur Sorry, I meant VSP. I guess RIF is on my mind.
airline_guy Posted May 16, 2014 Posted May 16, 2014 (edited) Gents, this just in via email from my squadron commander: -----Original Message----- From: DOE, JOHN Lt Col USAF Sent: Friday, May 16, 2014 10:42 AM To: Commanders Subject: (FOUO) Final decisions on remaining VSP apps FOR OFFICIAL USE ONLY Leaders, AFPC has again pushed the release date for the final batch of VSP decisions to the right. They are now looking at late next week for CMS messages to go out applicants and their commanders. I appreciate your continued patience with this process. v/r, JOHN DOE, Lt Col, USAF Commander Edited May 16, 2014 by airline_guy
FLY6584 Posted May 16, 2014 Posted May 16, 2014 What a ing joke. These people are beyond incompetent.
RescueRandy Posted May 16, 2014 Posted May 16, 2014 Gents, this just in via email from my squadron commander: -----Original Message----- From: DOE, JOHN Lt Col USAF Sent: Friday, May 16, 2014 10:42 AM To: Commanders Subject: (FOUO) Final decisions on remaining VSP apps FOR OFFICIAL USE ONLY Leaders, AFPC has again pushed the release date for the final batch of VSP decisions to the right. They are now looking at late next week for CMS messages to go out applicants and their commanders. I appreciate your continued patience with this process. v/r, JOHN DOE, Lt Col, USAF Commander Surprised? No. Disappointed? Yes. This clown show is beyond rediculous.
Lumbergh Posted May 16, 2014 Posted May 16, 2014 Gents, this just in via email from my squadron commander: -----Original Message----- From: DOE, JOHN Lt Col USAF Sent: Friday, May 16, 2014 10:42 AM To: Commanders Subject: (FOUO) Final decisions on remaining VSP apps FOR OFFICIAL USE ONLY Leaders, AFPC has again pushed the release date for the final batch of VSP decisions to the right. They are now looking at late next week for CMS messages to go out applicants and their commanders. I appreciate your continued patience with this process. v/r, this JOHN DOE, Lt Col, USAF Commander If true, UFB! Not surprised, but UFB. So, when it gets pushed again next week, then what? Whoever is in charge of this clusterfvck needs to be held accountable. It's time to name the names in charge of this catastrophe. Someone needs to get fired. Immediately. There needs to be a face to this prolonged, epic #2 sandwich...Chief of Separations, AFPC/CC, somebody.
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