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AFPC is processing the remaining officers applications this week and will continue to accept applications through 1 May

I love how this is in direct contrast to the new 14-08 that says they will not process until after 1 May. Another example of the right hand not talking to the left at AFPC. The way this reads, I get the feeling that it was either written in a vacuum OR well before 14-08 was revised.

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Saw this running around online:

Every other week, eh? So, when can we expect some new numbers on overages by AFSC and year group?

Officer VSP to date:

Processed applications: 936

Ineligible applications: 297 (Airmen applied but their AFSC or year group

was not eligible)

Approved applications: 275

Disapproved: 64 (Airmen was eligible when the applied, but disapproved based on receiving enough volunteers in the year group and AFSC)

Remaining applications: 300

* Once a category is closed under any program, Airmen in those year groups and AFSCs are removed from the involuntary boards.

Analysis:

936-297-275=364 applications processed but not approved or disapproved. Anybody know how that works?

64 disapproved? I'm pretty sure there were more than 64 kicked back for UPT ADSC. I know of at least 5.

Only 300 left to process? Was this published prior to the UPT ADSC waiver and the resultant reapplications?

How did a handful of UPT waivers get approved and now the rest are on hold 'til the first?

Obligatory snark:

I hope A1 doesn't get saturated after the 1st...since they're only going to have 7 days, per this from MyPers:

  • Application window closes 1 May 2014
  • Applications will be approved/disapproved approximately monthly after window opens and no later than 7 May 2014

They can always move the deadline. Again.

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TERA Phase III window is open today...must apply via vMPF. Anyone care to guess the status of vMPF?

Again, YCMTSU!!!!

EDIT: As of 1345Z vMPF is up and running again.

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Fellow Exec in the office just got an email regarding his VSP. Separations office requested he change his DOS to a date that fell after his ADSC for advanced flying training training. If he was willing to do so, it would be approved. If not, his application would "remain open and be processed after 1 May to see where it falls with other applications that need ADSC waivers."

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Fellow Exec in the office just got an email regarding his VSP. Separations office requested he change his DOS to a date that fell after his ADSC for advanced flying training training. If he was willing to do so, it would be approved. If not, his application would "remain open and be processed after 1 May to see where it falls with other applications that need ADSC waivers."

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Refer to above post regarding ADSC

SQ/CC and WG/CC approved

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YGBSM! Why are they opening another TERA/VSP window, when they haven't even finished processing the first round??? How do they even know they'll need an additional window until they complete all the current applications...

113 - days since release of the first FY14 Force Management PSDM

68 - days since the VSP application window opened

15 - MORE days until they'll even look at the remaining applications, who have ADSC's, which are now waiverable…I hope this is worth the wait, prolly should have just applied for PC...

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2008 11M... Previously was "referred to BPO" and just had movement on my app. Status is now "Referred to AFPC BPO Separations Supervisory Review" which is interesting since they claim they aren't processing until May 1. Possibly just getting all the apps to the last possible step? I have no idea. Any thoughts?

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YGBSM! Why are they opening another TERA/VSP window, when they haven't even finished processing the first round??? How do they even know they'll need an additional window until they complete all the current applications...

113 - days since release of the first FY14 Force Management PSDM

68 - days since the VSP application window opened

15 - MORE days until they'll even look at the remaining applications, who have ADSC's, which are now waiverable…I hope this is worth the wait, prolly should have just applied for PC...

You'd think that all of our applications would have been ready for approval, pending the waiver. Then, one click and VSP approved....

Any other words on those folks who apparently already got approved with UPT ADSCs? If those are real, what reason is there to wait til 1 May on the rest?

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You'd think that all of our applications would have been ready for approval, pending the waiver. Then, one click and VSP approved....

Any other words on those folks who apparently already got approved with UPT ADSCs? If those are real, what reason is there to wait til 1 May on the rest?

I have yet to hear directly from a confirmed pilot who received an ADSC waiver in person or on this forum

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This leads me to a question for Lt Gen Cox: Why are they waiting until after 1 May to process 2004-2008 11X applications? EVERY pilot in that time frame is going to have an ADSC from UPT. That would make it impossible to meet their force reeducation goals without waving an ADSC. I repeat, NO PILOT from 2004-2008 can be released without an ADSC wavier. So why make us wait even longer, continue to string our families along, impact our planning for military careers as well as potential civilian careers for a situation that isn’t going to occur.

02-03 11X’s, different story. Some will have ADSCs, some will not. But there is no reason why they can’t process 2004-2008.

I am a 2006 11M.

Did AFPC say that they wanted to zero out each year group in each AFSC? It really looks to me like they may look for a few more people in year groups that don't have ADSCs to get to the overall numbers. This would allow them to take an overage in some year groups that do have an ADSC. I could be wrong but it looks they are setting up for that scenario. I certainly hope I am wrong.

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Did AFPC say that they wanted to zero out each year group in each AFSC? It really looks to me like they may look for a few more people in year groups that don't have ADSCs to get to the overall numbers. This would allow them to take an overage in some year groups that do have an ADSC. I could be wrong but it looks they are setting up for that scenario. I certainly hope I am wrong.

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That's what it seems like to me. I just can't figure why they would eliminate higher numbers from the more experienced guys in their pilot force. You'd think they would want to match the overages they identified to keep from gutting the experience level.

Either way, I hear they are hurting for T-6 IPs and now they may create a shortage in the 11M world. It may mean good news for RPA guys like me trying to make it back into an airplane if VSP doesn't work out. But I'm sure big blue will find a way to crush my dreams.

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That's what it seems like to me. I just can't figure why they would eliminate higher numbers from the more experienced guys in their pilot force. You'd think they would want to match the overages they identified to keep from gutting the experience level.

Either way, I hear they are hurting for T-6 IPs and now they may create a shortage in the 11M world. It may mean good news for RPA guys like me trying to make it back into an airplane if VSP doesn't work out. But I'm sure big blue will find a way to crush my dreams.

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Hmmm. Alpha tour to white jet tour. That'd really "broaden" my career.

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I spoke directly with the 2007 c17 IP in my squadron that got vsp a week or so ago. He was the first and only vsp approved I have heard of for those with a upt adsc (he has five years). He submitted it in the initial wave and did not get it sent back.

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I hope this is worth the wait, prolly should have just applied for PC...

I don't know about that, the PC office has an epic backlog now. I ended up applying for VSP because getting the required paperwork together for PC was taking way too long. The only downside is now if they disapprove VSP, I'm behind the curve of the alleged 10-20 week wait for processing at the PC office. If I did my job this bad...

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Chang is a nobody, why do you people keep asking for him? He's referring to Liquid.

Chang is funnier than Liquid. All depends on what you're looking for...

Personally, I'd rather read Chang's account of how awesomely this has all gone. The previously posted email was almost there (i.e. only 48 hours before the retractions went out), but I know for a fact Chang can do better.

Now, if you all are actually looking for answers...sure, Liquid would be a much better choice.

Bendy

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