17 hours ago, disgruntledemployee said:

If you don't have a poster, patch, plaque, or mural with the headline of "Ft Collins Brewery Tour" on it, get to creating one. Bonus if you have a caricature of Lt Smalley on there.

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Oh, and as I read the old thread, I remembered my last 4 or so years in the AF when it came to the Med Gp physical beer question. I started answering with 7/week. Not one doc asked anything about it.

Sadly, the CGOC at FE Warren never completed the Ft Collings Brewery Tour as a group after that (although I lived in Ft Collins and did it many times with friends). I was told that some CGOs from Peterson did go. Some other interesting items from that time

• Lt Smalley (the one with the anti-drinking rant) was apparently a 35 year old non-prior enlisted Mormon with 4 kids, so his post makes a lot of sense in that context. One of the other CGOs on base called him and talked to him for 10 minutes and then said "i just wanted to waste 10 minutes of your time like you wasted of mine over that email". Overall, I think he faced a lot more backlash than expected and I felt bad for him.

• 1Lt Megan <last name redacted> did not make it to Capt, from my understanding after her somewhat overly graphic email response (info through the grapevine, no idea if its true)

• Multiple CGOs at FE Warren had to show up at the Wing Commanders office at 6am in full service dress because they were identified as forwarding the email off base (no one from the Comm squadron, of which I was part of, was identified...almost like the Comm squadron had to do the check and protected their own)

• I received about 300 emails a week related to the top for the couple month (everyone felt the need to CC me on everything). The email subject line got blocked at the Air Force Space Command NOSC after some amount of time. Our base commander (Col Michael Carey..who was later relieved of command for consuming excessive alcohol and behaving in a manner unbecoming an officer while in Russian in 2013..ironic?) was called in to explain himself to the 20AF 2-Star for his CGO's behavior. One of my friends who was an exec for a general forwarded me an email from the top Air Force general at the time telling all the four stars to "please mentor the young officers on proper email behavior" in response to this email chain.

• It took a few weeks to hit the enlisted side, the CGOs kept it in house for surprisingly long, then I became a minor celebrity within our own squadron, by this time I was VERY tired of the subject

• I received a call from a Navy enlisted person in Florida a good 2 months later asking "is this a real thing??" and some Civ in Georgia asking me to "stop the emails"

45 minutes ago, weaverms said:

Our base commander (Col Michael Carey..who was later relieved of command for consuming excessive alcohol and behaving in a manner unbecoming an officer while in Russian in 2013..ironic?) was called in to explain himself to the 20AF 2-Star for his CGO's behavior...

Ironic indeed! I was working a tasker for USSTRATCOM that involved Carey before he shat the bed. To be honest, it didn't totally surprise me, he seemed overly "giddy" during some of the meetings I was involved in.

An investigation by the IG into his 2013 Moscow trip found Carey was reported to have engaged in an "epic bender," starting his drinking on a stopover in Zurich and continuing throughout the trip. He also spent significant time with two foreign women at the Ritz-Carlton hotel whom he later told investigators he found "suspect". He was described as rude to his Russian hosts, interrupting speakers, and complaining about his own force's morale, leaving some of his delegation deeply embarrassed. During a tour of a monastery, Carey was said to be slurring his words and interrupting the tour guide. Finally, reports indicate he tried to force a Beatles tribute band at a Mexican restaurant in Moscow to let him play, and staggered through Red Square.

The kicker is when the investigators interviewed Gen Carey, but he appeared to have forgotten much of what happened in Russia!

Now, whether that was the effects of overindulgence or an offhanded way of invoking his Fifth Amendment right is anyone's guess; all I have to say is the entire event was overly entertaining!