July 8, 200817 yr I prefer "Spwings" over "Swings" since it's not already a word. Anyway, I don't have a problem with new AFSCs deviating from the standard "round" looking badges that everybody wears (and I can't tell the difference between) The pocket rocket is a good badge example, distinctive and easily identified. I just don't see why everything, even something as unrelated to aviation as CYBER Warrior, requires "wings" or any sort. Get a computer monitor shaped badge with f'ing lightning bolts shooting out or something. Creativity = Good
July 8, 200817 yr I prefer "Spwings" over "Swings" since it's not already a word. There was a thread about 'swingers.' Sounded like it beat the hell out of spwings.... I'm just sayin'......
July 8, 200817 yr There was a thread about 'swingers.' Sounded like it beat the hell out of spwings.... I'm just sayin'...... Well played, all I can't type worth a damn. Also, I thought that they wore both the "spwings" and the pocket rocket? Correct me if I'm wrong. Edited July 8, 200817 yr by GriffinR
July 9, 200817 yr Well played, all I can't type worth a damn. Also, I thought that they wore both the "spwings" and the pocket rocket? Correct me if I'm wrong. Spings are still mandatory, pocket rocket is technically optional.
July 9, 200817 yr They have arrived. Everybody gets wings now! I just puked out my ass. Why don't they use a scrolling LED nametage, that would be cool.
July 10, 200817 yr That's a bet you are gonna lose... Cheers! M2 M2 is right here. There's a ton of dineros in cyber that the AF wants their hands on. You may all laugh at me now, but down the road Cyber has more of a chance of doing the split from the AF than anything else and becoming it's own uniformed service. However, I do think the wings are pretty ghey.
July 16, 200817 yr Let's compare: Pilot: Spwings: Cyberspace: The problem with the cyberwings is it's suffers from classic 'design by committee'. It's trying to incorporate too many things; there's just a pile-on of stuff which makes it look incoherent. CHA-CHING!!! Back in 2000 there was a special one time bonus sign-up to retain comm and some engineering officers. $10K/year for four years; it would show up in my LES as Submariner Pay! I just sat in a briefing about Cyber command (ok, its at the AFCYBER symposium), but EWs going over won't necessarily become 17D or 12Ws. Instead they can go back to their command. Thus, screwing them out of hours and opportunities for jet specific schools. I am going, but I am hoping that being out of the jet like this doesn't screw me when I return. It just kind of makes sense that if there are some extra EWs in a community, then maybe they would be able to serve the AF from the cyber realm and pursue the opportunities over on that side. Damn it...
July 17, 200817 yr note: spings just took off the wreath from the old space AFSC badge and added solar panel "wings" instead. What's AFCYBER's excuse for this catastrophe?
July 17, 200817 yr I just sat in a briefing about Cyber command (ok, its at the AFCYBER symposium), but EWs going over won't necessarily become 17D or 12Ws. Instead they can go back to their command. Thus, screwing them out of hours and opportunities for jet specific schools. I am going, but I am hoping that being out of the jet like this doesn't screw me when I return. It just kind of makes sense that if there are some extra EWs in a community, then maybe they would be able to serve the AF from the cyber realm and pursue the opportunities over on that side. Damn it... Are they mostly puling EWOs from the RC- EC- communities? How long are you over there? Sounds like a scam to me, I'm not sure I believe them letting you return...especially if you were the first wave of folks to start it up.
July 17, 200817 yr I haven't heard anything about RC EWOs going over but I've been on leave for 3 weeks. Words escape me on this whole thing so I'm just going to keep quite for now and see what happens for now. Cooter
July 19, 200817 yr There's been talk down in the 563rd FTS (EW squadron at Randolph) about E Dubs from all types of airframes having a potential future in AFCYBER. No real information, but just a lot of talk that E Dubs/CSOs in general need to know their shit about electronic warfare b/c AFCYBER is gonna be a place with lots of money to spend and lots of billets to fill in the future. How that effects getting screwed out of being able to fly again, no idea...
July 20, 200817 yr Off Topic, but while you are on the topic of missile dudes, I recently had a missile dude tell me that he had over 300 "combat missions" under his belt. When I asked, oh yes, you would be correct, he meant that he had sat over 300 alerts. YGBFSM. Anyway, I say we should all change to the Buzz Lightyear wings. The only missileers that would say that are O-5 or higher. At Malmstrom they run around calling the OG squadrons "attack squadrons" despite the fact that the only thing we've attacked in the last 60 years is a plateful of tater tots. I think most missileers don't care for the spings. As far as flight suits, I like them just because we sometimes have to switch into and out of uniform (sts) several times during the course of a day and that's a lot easier than changing into and out of BDUs...plus I dont have to iron them.
July 21, 200817 yr At Malmstrom they run around calling the OG squadrons "attack squadrons" despite the fact that the only thing we've attacked in the last 60 years is a plateful of tater tots. The first part of this sentence is way beyond UFB. The second part is pretty darn funny! Brick, Goat Forks, MMII Deuce '87-'91
July 21, 200817 yr Are they mostly puling EWOs from the RC- EC- communities? How long are you over there? Sounds like a scam to me, I'm not sure I believe them letting you return...especially if you were the first wave of folks to start it up. They're pulling a few from the B-1 community.
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