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How silly of me: a poster follows up a video of a hood-rat with a video of Obama and I smelt something nefarious of it. Even though the two videos had absolutely nothing in common except for misuses of the word "respect" and fomenting stereotypes of an extremely specific minority group. I'll never make that mistake again!

You know how I know you're a racist? A disgusting, idiotic, and reprehensible ghetto chick on a bus has one thing in common with the POTUS, and you bring it up. Stay classy, guy.

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Rather than continue the pointless arguing about social media and young soldiers being stupid, I propose we encourage the Israeli equivalent: https://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worldnews/middleeast/israel/10096047/Israeli-women-soldiers-reprimanded-for-posing-in-underwear.html Enjoy!

People make mistakes: it's called life. What's with the sweeping judgments? If only there was someone on BODN who has also sent an "email heard 'round the world."... A moderator, perhaps... Who flies (flew?) Strike Eagles... If only...

^^ It was a training coffin, where the peeps learn/practice folding the flag. Not a legit coffin.

By all means, I'm just adding a different perspective. The flags don't fold as well because the funeral detail is cold-soaked: Freezing weather in a breezy service coat and paper thin white gloves do not a crisp flag make due to numb hands. I really can't imagine ANYONE insinuating they would intentionally jack up a departed soldier's flag. But I can picture the lame venting of having to be in the freezing cold rather than inside a warm church. Was it dumb for her to say it to her "followers" on twitter? Damn straight. In this day and age anything you say (to anyone) can blow up on social media, as she has just learned. She's young, inexperienced, and like Hueypilot said, will get educated on the topic very quickly and thoroughly. With my W reference, I was trying to say that if you didn't know who he was and were simply reading some of his gaffes in the paper ("I believe human beings and fish can coexist peacefully," "fool me twice.... You can't get fooled, again," etc) it would be easy to think him a fool, but in the context of how many times he speaks in a day, how every word he says is recorded, mistakes will be made and you just laugh it off. Relating this understanding and compassion to twitter, when everything someone writes can and will be held against them, without context, it's easy to say stupid things.

I don't mean to interrupt the lynching party, but... Has anyone here ever made a macabre joke? I've folded flags at funerals in -20 weather: it's not easy, and yeah, they weren't as pretty or crisp as those folded in 60 and sunshine. I'm sure we joked about it amongst ourselves, but thankfully we never had a global audience for our conversations like this young woman has... Social media is dangerous shit. Especially for someone too young and inexperienced to know when to hold back the thoughts they might share with close friends. As anyone watching GWB's old speeches will notice, it's easy to find flaws when everything a person says is recorded, and the context is easily missed. Was it stupid for her to write what she did? Yeah. But you were children once, too. That's what kids do. It's called "growing up."

Red herring. I'd like to know who the idiots are that respond 'yes' when their car insurance company (or their surrogates) asks them if they text while driving. edit: beer bad, spell good

Apologies in advance.

Optimist. My guess is 30 day orders...

169FE, I'm disgruntled because I can't wear a 'SUCK FACTOR' morale patch, and my finances suck D2 the pension COLA cut... I'll sell you the KC-10 eTOLD program for 5 bucks. If that isn't sweet enough I'll throw in the W&B program for some french fries. I say sell the Chinese everything we have on the WARPs: that'll set them back at least 30 years.

This thread is why we can't have nice things.

Re: children, there have been limited studies which linked increased proportion of female children in fighter pilots. The best theory being the physiological stresses inherent in tactical aviation (G's, blackout, etc) skew spermatogenesis towards the survival of more X chromosome sperm. I.e, the X chromosome swimmers are generally more robust than the Y chromosome. Apart from radars and other artificial factors, aircrews are also exposed to much higher levels of radiation simply flying at altitude. More studies are needed, but aircrew generally aren't keen to invite medical researchers into their lives to study them.

Her article is hilarious if you read it as tongue-in-cheek: tator tots and star wars crap on the walls mean happy missile crews and 3rd graders, alike! Any chance she's part of that drug abuse ring?

Well, it's obvious that Bush 41 supported the troops while Obama hasn't. Look at the things that have all happened under Obama: - Significant drawdown of the military after protracted conflict - Major cuts to military spending during an economic recession - Significant cuts to much-needed modernization programs - Increased emphasis on coalitions, rather than the U.S. going it alone - Curtailed pay raises for the armed forces - Possible changes to the military retirement system (remember redux?) - Abandonment of soldiers showing serious war-related illness after conflict - Pilots signing up to a plane, instead fly a desk (well, conex) - Rampant political correctness I could go on, and on, but you get the point... Obviously those things never happened under Bush 41, so again, I ask you, how did Bush 41 support the troops in ways Obama doesn't? Sharper salute? He never put his hand on his heart during the national anthem? How?

^^ How so? I'm genuinely curious as to why you think that.

Bush 41 never attended soldier's funerals... What a disgusting human being he must be! I'm sure you'll agree, right?

Hoss, You got me! You asked what I thought was improved, not what was important, and I answered. Well played strawman argument. And excellent gif!

[quote name="HOSS" post="364678" timestamp="1385576802" .... and speaking of which, what examples do you have to contribute? The irony of someone bitching and whining about bitching and whining isn't lost on me.

Eat it yourself. Every thread about what sucks/improved in the AF quickly derails into bitching about uniforms, pt tests, boots, master's degrees, and other bullshit. Those topics must be very important for everyone, since you all bitch about it so often. If leaders are reading this thread they're most likely saying "Holy shit... our officers are a bunch of whiners who act like children. Our (supposed) warriors, when asked what's improved, can only come up with uniforms, boots, and pt tests, because that's all they care about. Damn!"

I hope our leaders are reading this thread and getting a solid grasp on what their aviators think are important. Things like uniforms, boots, and pt tests... Glad you warriors have a solid perspective on what's important (Champ and JS excluded).

It's telling when the thread to highlight what's improved in the AF quickly dilutes to how much it sucks.

Different pot of money? FIFY

^^ Valid. I meant a different figure of speech. McC resigned because he said some dumb (and accurate) shit to a reporter. He didn't "bring his opinion into the public view to force debate at the expense of his career", ala a dude testifying to a Senate committee on substandard body armor, etc. He trusted a reporter. Big difference.