BashiChuni
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7 minutes ago, icohftb said:
Or it might not be that farfetched that they all coordinated to send the same message...
reminds me of covid
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Your dad and granddad fought the soviets. My grandfathers fought the Germans, Japanese and Koreans. My uncles fought the Vietnamese. Things change.
but I appreciate the acknowledgment that it isn’t black and white. I’m not a Putin fan. He’s a bad dude. But I don’t want US involvement…because as bad as Putin is WW3 is an order of magnitude worse.
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Committing air power to Ukraine won’t lead to escalation?
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1 hour ago, SurelySerious said:
Still all bullshit busy work. Taking more time away from subordinates reaping no gains. That’s bad business.thoughts and prayers
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if you actually read what Putin writes you'd know that he's not another hitler and therefore the chamberlin analogy is incorrect.
"The Western authors of the anti-Russia project set up the Ukrainian political system in such a way that presidents, members of parliament and ministers would change but the attitude of separation from and enmity with Russia would remain. Reaching peace was the main election slogan of the incumbent president. He came to power with this. The promises turned out to be lies. Nothing has changed. And in some ways the situation in Ukraine and around Donbas has even degenerated.
In the anti-Russia project, there is no place either for a sovereign Ukraine or for the political forces that are trying to defend its real independence. Those who talk about reconciliation in Ukrainian society, about dialogue, about finding a way out of the current impasse are labelled as “pro-Russian” agents.
Again, for many people in Ukraine, the anti-Russia project is simply unacceptable. And there are millions of such people. But they are not allowed to raise their heads. They have had their legal opportunity to defend their point of view in fact taken away from them. They are intimidated, driven underground. Not only are they persecuted for their convictions, for the spoken word, for the open expression of their position, but they are also killed. Murderers, as a rule, go unpunished.
Today, the “right” patriot of Ukraine is only the one who hates Russia. Moreover, the entire Ukrainian statehood, as we understand it, is proposed to be further built exclusively on this idea. Hate and anger, as world history has repeatedly proved this, are a very shaky foundation for sovereignty, fraught with many serious risks and dire consequences.
All the subterfuges associated with the anti-Russia project are clear to us. And we will never allow our historical territories and people close to us living there to be used against Russia. And to those who will undertake such an attempt, I would like to say that this way they will destroy their own country.
The incumbent authorities in Ukraine like to refer to Western experience, seeing it as a model to follow. Just have a look at how Austria and Germany, the USA and Canada live next to each other. Close in ethnic composition, culture, in fact sharing one language, they remain sovereign states with their own interests, with their own foreign policy. But this does not prevent them from the closest integration or allied relations. They have very conditional, transparent borders. And when crossing them the citizens feel at home. They create families, study, work, do business. Incidentally, so do millions of those born in Ukraine who now live in Russia. We see them as our own close people.
Russia is open to dialogue with Ukraine and ready to discuss the most complex issues. But it is important for us to understand that our partner is defending its national interests but not serving someone else's, and is not a tool in someone else's hands to fight against us.
We respect the Ukrainian language and traditions. We respect Ukrainians' desire to see their country free, safe and prosperous."
https://en.wikisource.org/wiki/On_the_Historical_Unity_of_Russians_and_Ukrainians
the bolded text is why he invaded.
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1 minute ago, SurelySerious said:
Guess NATO isn’t such a big threat to Russia after all lol #excusetoinvadethe british aren't! NATO backed up by the US is! good thing we have a president who isn't a fool and won't commit us to WW3! lol #UsefulIdiot
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1 minute ago, SurelySerious said:
Well, the topic is appeasing authoritarian dictators in Europe who used mechanized armies to invade neighbors under false pretenses…so enlighten us how you would like to expand it further than someone who has done that in the last 150 years. I’d love it if you gave us relevant examples across history that aren’t Hitler. Hell, name a book. Need some new reading.you think putin wants to push all the way to paris? go with your assessment and logic. this will be good!
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ah yes the UK with their 40 main battle tanks must surely be striking fear in the russians! 😄
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look you guys can cry and bitch all you want, but the fact remains that the US is done with Project Ukraine.
there is no path forward for ukranian victory...other than a full blown WW3 with nato troops being committed. is that what you fools want?
i don't. and most americans don't want that either.
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1 hour ago, Banzai said:
It’s fun watching the military members of this forum - who I am 100% certain trained to fight the Russians (because they have moral and political views opposite of the US and have for about 75 years) - start gargling and regurgitating Russia is our friend propaganda. Do as you’re told, guys.
Yes, yes, sow division between western allies, push for the dissolution of NATO, Russia is the oppressed one here, Ukraine started the war. Might want to look up Neville Chamberlain and start learning from history before you doom yourself to the wrong side of it.
It’s interesting you lecture people to learn history.
yet your side is the same people who refuse to examine the history of the Ukraine war and what led to putins decision to invade. Parroting the “Putins unprovoked invasion” line.
After we won the Cold War NATO should have been disbanded.
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40 minutes ago, Lord Ratner said:
Or, arguing with you is like playing chess with a pigeon. You just knock over all the pieces, shit on the board, and strut around like you won the match.
There are more interesting people to converse with here. Though you are occasionally amusing.
Again. You have nothing to refute just insults and emotions.
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You guys have nothing but an emotional argument. Emotional arguments don’t hold up to logical, reason based facts. Sad.
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15 minutes ago, chase said:
Right into personally attacking me, huh?
I never implied I’m not on your side, whatever that is.
The guy is literally a talking head on Russian-paid state TV.
Standing by for ANY facts or discussion about the conflict and way forward…
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NATO lost its purpose a long time ago. i'm in favor of telling europe to go fuck off.
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1 hour ago, chase said:
By a guy who lost his investments in Russia and now takes money from the Kremlin? That’s rich—even coming from you.
by a guy with 11 posts and no evidence of said claim? very rich.
again your side throws insults with no historical facts, content, or evidence. might be a clue that you're being deceived.
how about you address the points mr. sachs made? any rebuttals to his claims? or just insults?
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A good summary
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21 hours ago, SurelySerious said:
Probably indicative of the subject. TASS may be more your jam, if that’s your criteria.a sign you're losing the intellectual argument is when you have nothing to offer but "well you're a putin agent" drivel
it isn't adding anything to the conversation and very childish.
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The Next President is...
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stunning and brave