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BashiChuni

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  1. no a lot of people in our country don't buy the bullshit propaganda narrative of the globalists that it's ukraine or death.

    ukraine absolutely cannot win this fight. negotiation is their best way forward. facts not emotion.

    but keep stroking it to tom clanceys red storm rising

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  2. 34 minutes ago, skibum said:

    Sheesh -- I used to look at this discussion to see all the cool footage of Russians getting blasted. Now it's just a whining, political buzz kill. Why don't you tools take the boring crap offline already.

    Here's a photo of dead Russians to help get this thread back on track.

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    yeah....cause WAR! and killing! YEAH! AMERICA!

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  3. 58 minutes ago, ClearedHot said:

    Sorry dude, I turned in my tin foil hat a long time ago.

    brother look what they did with covid? trust the experts? man everything the government put out was a lie. they're still pushing the vax even after it's been proven not to work.

    i don't know how you have such blind faith in the words our government says.

  4. 3 hours ago, ClearedHot said:

    Sobering report that details a lot of the damage done to the Russian military in the last two years.  Here is where you money has gone.

    Russia has lost 87% of troops it had prior to start of Ukraine war, according to US intelligence assessment

    "Of the 360,000 troops that made up Russia’s pre-invasion ground force, including contract and conscript personnel, Russia has lost 315,000 on the battlefield, according to the assessment. 2,200 of 3,500 tanks have been lost, according to the assessment. 4,400 of 13,600 infantry fighting vehicles and armored personnel carriers have also been destroyed, a 32 percent loss rate."

    “Since launching its offensive in October, we assess that the Russian military has suffered more than 13,000 casualties along the Avdiivka-Novopavlivka axis and over 220 combat vehicle losses-the equivalent of 6 maneuver battalions in equipment alone,”

    and you believe that leak? leaked on the day zelensky was in DC asking for more money?

    after watching our government lie during COVID i don't take anything they leak out at face value.

     

    "a source familiar with a declassified US intelligence assessment provided to Congress told CNN"

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  5. 2 hours ago, FourFans said:

    Please support that statement.  Preferably with facts.

    You would have been a riot to listen to during the Blitz in England, or during the Battle of the Bulge, or during the seige of Stalingrad, or right after Pearl Harbor.  You are taking a very short and narrow view of a very broad and deep problem.  Maybe try a wider breadth of media coverage.  Ukraine is winning.  Ukraine is losing.  Both sides have valid arguments, yet you're only choosing to listen to one side.  I don't know what bias is driving you to that, but I recommend some self-analysis.

    Self analysis. I swore to support and defend the constitution. Never swore to uphold Eastern Europe. Ukraine is not nato. We have zero obligation to defend the them. 
     

    many of you need to reexamine who you’re being loyal to. It’s sad how brainwashed by the military industrial complex you are. War and more war. Most Americans are sick of it. 

  6. 9 hours ago, Lawman said:


    Read my lips, if you’re on a Forum spouting off Russian talking points about how Ukraine belongs to them historically, or that NATO expansion justified them invading by force a sovereign nation, or insinuating the CIA ran a coup to overthrow Ukraine’s government (all points he’s tried to make) you’re a shill. Putin has expressed his interest in realigning the old Soviet satellites as vassal states. Pretending otherwise would ignore the last decade of action by him. So yeah Ukraine is as many have pointed out the stepping stone in a lone of stones already crossed leaving us with the next step having a 4/5 chance of being a NATO country.

    I’ve got no interest in trying to convert Bashi, I’m pointing out to the rest of the room that may think he has a point how incredibly stupid it is. Why are you suddenly trying to defend him? If he stuck to points about budget he’s fine, but he is repeating known Russian talking points advanced and stimulated across social media.

    And DCG would be deputy commanding general. We have one currently and he’s Polish.


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    look at you name dropping DCG! you're so cool

    like i said let me know when a nato country is invaded then i'm in.

    ukraine ain't nato. and it's corrupt as fuck. so enjoy your globalist war you soldier of the world!

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  7. 23 minutes ago, FourFans said:

    How do you see us avoiding the fallout of:

    - an imploding russia and the power vacuum it would create OR ?????????????????

    - an emboldened russia on the border of Poland OR

     

    let them be emboldened. putin isn't going to capture europe. that's extreme gas lighting and won't happen. hell he can't even take kiev and the experts are shrieking about paris. gmafb.

    the second putin crosses into NATO i'll be interested. until then i DGAF

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  8. ukraine never has and never will be a vital national security concern for the united states of america.

    the only reason we care is because our corrupt politicians have corrupt dealings in a corrupt eastern european nation.

    why was the president's crack head son doing business there? why was then vice president biden interjecting in a ukranian prosecutor's firing?

    our economy and politics are not tied to events in ukraine. they only are if you want them to be.

     

  9. 1 hour ago, FourFans said:

    The only victory to be had will be the most costly kind, and we all get to help pay the price in some form or fashion.  That's history.  It's happened before and will happen again.

    i reject this outright. and this type of thinking has characterized our disastrous foreign policy post WWII

    we are americans. we are not ukranians. the founding fathers would be appalled

  10. 1 hour ago, ClearedHot said:

    @BashiChuni not being pejorative, but your optic is somewhat tainted having been raised in what we want to be the American way of war.  Declare an objective, go take it quickly, packup and go home.  Thanks to support from the west and ever more efficient weapons have both exposed the faulty Russian war machine and equalized Ukraine on the battlefield.  Sadly the fight in Ukraine has settled into a battle of attrition that in years past would have favored Russia giving their willingness to endlessly throw their youth into the meat grinder.  Yes Ukraine wants to counter attack and regain their territory, but as long Russia continues to try and conquer Ukraine, then Ukraine has accidentally settled into the strategic position the German Commander Falkenhayn had at Verdun where the purpose was not to out maneuver or gain strategic position, but to bleed the "French white."

    Ukraine is paying a horrific price, a cost that is purposely not being told, but as long as Ukraine has the support of the west, they will survive, Russia is alone and the impact is long and will be far reaching.  The impact of years of internal social issues and this conflict has reduced their young working male population, an issue that will manifest in several years and further accelerate the decline Russia as a world power.  Russia's Navy has been hurt, Russian's Air Force has been seriously degraded and Russia's army is in tatters.  Putin's expansion has been stopped and his dream of rebuilding the FSU is dead.  We need to keep it buried.

     

     

    if this is a war of attrition ukraine has lost.

    i'd place my bet on the russian bear to bleed slower than the ukranians. history backs this up.

  11. 3 hours ago, FourFans said:

    No one.  That's who's winning.  It's war.  No one wins in war.

    Counter question: What do you think would happen afterwards if Russia were allowed to go unchecked by western support?   US and NATO stops supporting Ukraine, as you think should happen, and Russia dominates and takes the entire of Ukraine.  Then what?  You think he'll stop? 

    yes. invading ukraine (a NON NATO) country with historical ties to Russia/USSR, is a much different calculus than invading other european countries.

    nuance is a beautiful thing. and guess what....if putin decided to push farther then NATO kicks their ass. simple.

     

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