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3 hours ago, MFlyer99 said:
Are FC1s still being cleared by AETC with this whole coronavirus? Already did my FC1, just waiting on the clearance/approval. I assume so, but thought I'd double check.
Here at Wright-Patt, we've been told that IFCs are cancelled with no timeline on when they will restart. I realize you've already done your IFC, but in case others were wondering....
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Holy crap. Who keeps copies of those things from 100+ years ago.
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33 minutes ago, daynightindicator said:
Installation commander may restrict travel to AD folks at their discretion. The home/work commute verbiage is actually the AFI definition of local area.
My understanding (after working this at the unit level for the past week) is that leave travel of government civilians (GS employees) cannot be restricted, but *could* result in a situation where the individual is quarantined, and would not automatically be paid (individual could have to use personal leave/comp time, etc).
Contractors get their guidance from their companies, but installation commander could always restrict their base access.
Regular civilians (dependents, etc) are not subject to these rules but their actions could impact their sponsors (spouse travels to China, may result in quarantine for sponsor).
I learned a lot this week about all this and this is my best understanding.
Open for spears if anyone has other info. Crazy times indeed.Thanks. I guess I just need to shut up and color. I didn't agree with the policy, but it sound like we're keeping in step with Big Blue so I just need to accept it and move on. Strange days indeed!
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2 minutes ago, FLEA said:
In short, yes. If you are AD, the commander can lawfully order you to refrain from certain activities including travel. This is not normal and in 11 years in the military I've never seen it before to this scale. Usually curfews or temporary travel bans or night club bans are common, but this has been a bit extreme. I tell you this because undoubtebly this will pass and you will have a mostly normal life again at some point. But we are doing almost the same thing at our base. (Must remain within 1 hour of base).
Thanks for the response. I believe they are saying the policy applies to AD, civilians and contractors. It's not that I'm personally opposed to the policy as I'm not leaving my house except to go to work and do the essential trips to stay alive (food, gas, alcohol). I just thought it a bit draconian.
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Question for the group. I work at Wright-Patt where they fly people in from all over the country for IFC exams, tech training, flight doc training, etc. So our exposure to Corona is a bit high. Now they are telling us if we leave the local area (defined as the area between our home and work) we have to quarantine for 14 days before we're allowed back to work. I've never experienced this before and it seems a bit illogical given that my highest risk for exposure is at work. Has anyone else experienced this? I understand the DoD can pretty much do what they want, but is this really legal?
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17 hours ago, Cherokeeflyer said:
Has anyone else's FC1 appointments been cancelled? What all are you hearing back?
ROTC has decided to cancel all travel until mid-May. Plus the DoD just came out with a travel hold for 60 days as well. So everyone has been cancelled. It's going to be a bit of a CF when things start up again as the whole system which was already booked to capacity tries to catch up.
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Happens all the time. Not as often since the passing score for the "standard" test was lowered, but still very common. If you passed with the circles projected on the wall, you will get a waiver. Don't sweat it.
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If it heals normally, it's a non-issue.
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3 hours ago, dannyboy9764 said:
What exactly do we need for MFS? I sent my PRK stuff already and have my medical records ordered (hopefully in time for me to actually bring). Is there anything else I need to bring with me?
Unless you have some condition that needs further evaluation, your medical records should not be required. In the vast majority of cases, MFS is just a formality. Show up, get a few things done and get out. There are rare exceptions, of course, but unless you've been specifically instructed to bring something additional, you just need to show up in person.
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If you were to seek an enhancement now, your IFC I exam would be invalidated and you'd have to re-accomplish the eye portion after a six month mandatory wait. You also are not allowed to get refractive surgery during pilot training.
If you don't have the six months to spare, my recommendation is to simply wear glasses and when you hit a point in your career when time allows, do the enhancement then. Note that as a trained aircrew member the six months is no longer required to return to fly. You can begin flying after refractive surgery when your eyes have healed and the vision is stable. Typically a couple months after PRK and one or two after LASIK. If you get it done in the AF, the enhancement is free.
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11 hours ago, mightymighty said:
Cleared hot!
I got a re-test and passed my FC1 yesterday without a waiver and without glasses.
I wouldnt have had the opportunity to do this again without the help and advice of folks on this forum, the docs at Wright Pat, and the flight docs at the 104th FW, 143rd AW, and 56th MDG.
My situation was a little strange, but if anyone has any questions or runs into this issue please DM me and reach out!
Meh, who wants to fly F-15's anyway.
Obviously kidding. Great job for taking the initiative and getting through this hurdle. Best of luck moving forward.
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-3.00 is the limit for pilot applicants. Trained pilots have no limits as long as you are correctable to 20/20.
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I don't know the answers to those questions. I've actually never seen a waiver from MEPS. In my experience, MEPS just does their thing and then Big Blue decides whether to send you on to compete the FC I. In regards to the FC I, nothing is done ahead of time as far as waivers go. The folks at Wright-Patt will review your case and decide if it makes sense to bring you. If it does, then any required waivers get processed after your eval.
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5 hours ago, Desk Jobs Suck said:
REVIVAL. I'm a guard applicant. I have a history of childhood asthma and wanted to know the best process for waiver submittal for MEPS and FC1. Can I ask to submit a waiver before MEPS so I don't have to wait for the appointment, get DQ'd and then do the whole process? Basically is there a way to go about this as efficient as possible as to avoid delays?
First off, disclaimer. I'm not a pulmonologist. But, I know a little about AF policy. If you had documented asthma after age 12 or 13, I don't believe it's waiverable. Before that age, you're likely going to have to pass either a PFT or MCT or both. I don't know the MEPS process, but for FC I, they are going to want the breathing tests done at Wright-Patt. I know that doesn't directly answer your question, but maybe it helps a little?
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I don't see this as being a problem. Get it take out. As long as it heals with no complications, you should be fine. No waiver needed.
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27 minutes ago, mightymighty said:
Thanks @Duck
Hoping for a better day tomorrow
Don't sweat it (yet). There are still options.
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9 hours ago, pawnman said:
You may be right... But no one in flight med talked to me about the contact lenses, just optometry. Don't know where the paperwork routes after I leave the clinic, though.
As for getting them on your own dime, you have to do that on the program as well. The Air Force just authorize you to wear contacts, but they don't pay for lenses.
Some units will buy contacts for their flyers if they choose to, but it's obviously not required. As an active flyer once you've completed UPT, the AF docs should update your contact lens Rx so you can fill it without having to pay for the exam.
Current approved lenses are attached. There is actually a newer list, but it hasn't been released. I doubt there will be many deletions, just adding some additional lenses.
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You may be right, I don't work at a UPT base, but I'm of the understanding that if you show up at UPT wearing an approved contact lens and meet all of the vision standards you can use them while flying. They won't fit you with contacts at UPT; only after you complete training. I'll reach out to my colleagues at a UPT base and get the the full story.
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I don't think you can find it without a CAC and access to the Knowledge Exchange. I'll pull it down and post it tomorrow.
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Probably 4-6 weeks. If it needs to be rushed, it can be much faster than that.
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Currently there are two manufacturers (Innova and NCI). NCI produces the updated test you previously asked about. I'd be surprised if you can find a civilian that has the test. Maybe if they are an AME, but even then the cost of the test is more than most civilians want to stomach.
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5 hours ago, CavGuy said:
Resurrecting this thread again, sorry.
I was reading on here that as of 2017 a different version of the CCT was implemented from previous versions? I took the, AFAIK, the only version available at the time (Rabin CCT) in 2015 at various civ ophthalmologists. Would the new version be a shock to the system if you're seeing it for the first time?
CheersThe new version looks a little different than the CCT from 2015 and uses and slightly different strategy, but it is based on the same science and the results from the two will be very similar.
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I'd recommend not taking Andrew Luck.
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On 8/21/2019 at 9:44 PM, CharlieHotel47 said:
Dude, your going to be fine. I was born in colombia. Moved to the states when I was 10 yrs old. Got my citizenship when I was 18 while at basic. It was pretty simple process for bros joining the military. Specially on the enlisted side. There was a dude that spoke no English at all from Africa. Left basic fluent lol a solid E-6 last time I ran into him. Good luck. Cheers
Sent from my iPhone using Baseops Network mobile appYep, second this. We see people coming through the pilot application process who were born and raise in other countries. Not sure if they had more hoops to jump through, but they were accepted into UPT.
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It can't hurt. Why are you so passionate against it?