BQZip01

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:SARC

By "help them out" I meant to clue them in. Let them know (politely) they made a mistake.

Then he should be more specific. To be even more clear, I agree with the guy on many points, but some people need to get off their high horse (a checkpoint for what color socks you're wearing? Give me a break) and others need to admit when they're wrong (if you're wearing white socks, you're wrong. Admit it, fix it, maybe help your buddies out and give them a head's up, and then let it go). I've been to the deid twice. I saw the pictures of the Sheep on the bike. The O-6 went a little overboard with the plaque on his bike, so what? I don't know many O-6s that don't have some little quirks, but the guys who openly mocked it were asking for trouble. Hell, I remember our first sergeant getting a 1st Shirts only e-mail with a subject line that read "Gonna go over to the Bra and check people for uniform violations". The body of the message was even more disturbing: "Wanna come with? We already have 7 shirts coming along." He politely declined. Our standards should be such that the guy who notices a uniform violation says something to the guy, the violator says "oops" and fixes it, and then life goes on with nothing ever being brought up again. No one should be grossly out of uniform. No one should berate someone publicly for an extremely minor infraction. In short, try to do the right thing. I remember once giving a briefing to about 40 cadets. After the briefing another Lt came over and said, "You're rank is on wrong." I immediately realized what happened (my wife put the rank of for me after washing it; BTW, I don't blame my wife, I blame myself for not checking it; it was my butt out there; no one to blame but me), fixed it, and no one said anything about it ever again. The shirts should look after their own troops and check them out. If someone isn't up to snuff, politely point it out. If you see it again, you can tell them again or just tell their shirt. If it happens a third time, tell their shirt and/or flight commander/sq commander. Those regs are mostly signed by O-7s and up. They are lawful orders. Allowing others to skimp on the regs is tacit acceptance of the violation. Keep the bar high, but don't hit people with the bar. :beer:

At times like these, it puts simple college rivalries in perspective (I'm an Aggie). Hook 'em, Gig 'em, and God speed Chris. I heard they both graduated last year in the April timeframe

Oh, I got the point, but making sweeping generalities that are insulting is also stupid

Shoe, my father flew BUFFs with a lot of those guys who flew in Linebacker II out of Guam. A lot of their buddies didn't come back. I suggest you think a little more about your remarks before hitting that "SUBMIT" button.

On a related topic, is the Columbus AIB done too?

Knew the SIB was done. Thanks for the update on the AIB.

Any word on the cause (public release info only, please. No confidential info)