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Whitman

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  1. CZ showed up to the Captain-led roof stomp at the General's house when I was at SOS. As he approached on the porch, I said "Captains only" (to his bewilderment), pointed him in the direction of the empty beer cooler and aimed for the nearest exit.

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  2. As it was explained to me many years ago:

    1) Never use the rudder. You're inputs are never as quick or accurate as the rudder assist system and you'll only make the Dutch roll worse.

    2) make sharp aileron inputs in the opposite direction of the roll as soon as you start to see/feel it. Put it in and take it right out, like high school sweethearts.

    3) slow down. Dutch roll occurs by having more lift from one swept wing than the other. Slow down to reduce that lift difference.

    4) land as soon as possible. DR is nothing to sneeze at. But I guess we've already figured that out.

    To the crew. :beer:

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    Good stuff. Are you receiver tanker (RT) qualed? I wonder if the sharp aileron inputs you referenced are similar to "chopping the wood" and making similar aileron/spoiler inputs to defeat PIO in the horizontal axis which sometimes occurs during AR.

  3. I was an IP in the '135, and I used to teach this as my little "bag of tricks" thing. At that time, not a lot of attention was paid to the Dutch roll tendencies of the jet, because the Series Yaw Damper (SYD) was very dependable. Dependable, but not perfect. I had this happen (Dutch roll exacerbated by a malfunctioning SYD) over middle-of-nowhere Canada in the middle of the night when I was a youngish AC, and it scared the bejeezus out of me. No matter what I did, it kept getting worse--up to 40 degrees of bank either way at its worst. Fortunately, we had a graybeard IP on the jet with us who came up to the jumpseat. He talked me through the recovery technique, and all was well. It's a counterintuitive manual control recovery, and had he not been there I can't help but assume the worst might have happened to us. When I became an IP, I made sure I told everyone the story, then walked them through the recovery. I hope the community puts emphasis on this for the lifespan of the airplane. Sounds like they will.

    That's a wild story. What exactly does the manual control recovery entail and how long did it take for you to regain control of the jet?

  4. JEEZUS CHRIST ON A CRACKER. Ask LTC Raible and the rest of VMA-211 if drinking your 3 beers/day and living in a hotel suite while deployed is better than dodging RPGs and getting mortared weekly. GFY.

    Easy tiger (or Ram). All I'm saying is from a mission perspective, I'd rather be closer to the where I can do my job so I can have a greater influence. I never wasted much time worrying about where I was sleeping, whether it was in a B hut in OEF or a trailer in the CC, but the danger that our troops face in country is a legitimate threat and concern to me. That's why I'd rather be 30min away.

  5. Just stop. No one is feeling sorry for you.

    I am. Would you rather be in the stack 12hrs with 1hr admin or 7hrs with 6 cross country flying out of one of the hottest and most humid places on earth where you have to deal with dirt bags at customs every time you go fly?

  6. Thanks, no. Compartmentalized and moved on. The MC-12W crash 2 days prior only made it worse though. I knew the 747 was going to crash well before it did. The first thing i saw was the plane climbing at a 45 degree angle. Even empty, they don't do that. The AOA kept increasing though...even at 80 degrees nose-high, it continued to climb albeit briefly. I can recount every detail precisely, but instead I'm going to go grab a coffee, go out to my backyard (rural Iowa acreage), and enjoy the day.

    I'm sorry you had to witness that, hang in there. That sounds like a perfect place to relax post deployment.

  7. Until told otherwise, I think the wise person believes that load shift is the culprit.

    However, runaway trim could also be an issue....

    I'm not a 747 guy but if it were a runaway trim issue wouldn't it have been nose DOWN runaway (obviously not shown in the video) because of the trim inputs from the flight deck with an increase in speed?

    I believe the KC-135 Class A that killed everyone on board was runaway nose UP because they were on approach and trimming nose up as the airspeed decreased. I don't know, I'm not a doctor.

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