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I live 45 minutes from P-cola beach. Some guys live right on it. I'd gladly live farther inland if I could find a place where my tools, cars, motorcycle doesn't rust. We still have guys deploying. I'm going to KAF this summer for a 179.

There is a reserve component but it's taking approx 6 months for the interservice transfer. And that's just for marines that are switching over to the Navy reserve. I don't know of any AF that have done it in the last couple years.

If you're going to NAS Whiting Field to train pilots with the Navy, it's the best flying I've ever done. A lot of practice fields to go to. A few different MOAs to use. Aerobatics over the beach is a win. Cross countries pretty much anywhere in the US (although VT3 put a 1200 mile limit after some Vegas shenanigans). A lot of VFR flying. The B model is awesome, but we don't use half the gucci stuff (HOTAS, A/A, A/G, etc). It took a little bit to get used to navy flying (gear down in the pattern, calling the 180, etc), but more of breaking AF habits. I also pretty much always have my flight suit sleeves pushed up and only wear a callsign patch. Hell, I don't even know where my actual name patch is. I like to think I'm sticking it to the man. The true irony is that the man doesn't even care.

Interesting. Wonder how that would work if you were supposed to requal in an MWS. TDY enroute for 4-6 months of requal to get to your duty station for another 4-6 months. Plus TAPS, terminal leave, etc.

Some bros were sitting around the flight office the other day and the subject came up and there was some conflicting info. The scenario is that an individual has a year or so on his active duty service commitment and gets PCS orders. To take the orders would extend his ADSC. He doesn't want to extend his ADSC, so he turns down the orders. Can the AF move you anyway? Send you on a 365 or 179? Let you serve out your time where you're at? Other? What normally happens?

LOL...Or 26.2.7. "Any officer possessing a skill (to include capabilities, experiences, and other attributes) approved by SecAF and identified in the board details as critical to the Air Force." Wonder if flying an airplane is a skill critical to the AF. Probably not.

Just googled "Brig Gen Grosso"...

We find it's always better to fire people on a friday. Studies have statistically shown that there's less chance of an incident if you do it at the end of the week.

Well, the AF could go to the Navy model and have a Fixed-wing Instructor Training Unit at every base. At NAS Whiting, there's 10 of us in the wing that are dedicated to instructing the replacement pilots from the fleet. Eight rides and then an equivalent to a form 8 check. Then, there's the contact, instrument, and navigation flights and working on being an instructor. It's a pretty small operation and fairly efficient (for the Navy). Positives to this model are 1) the FITU instructors can sub in at the squadrons for help as needed and they don't get rusty flying with actual students. 2) squadron instructors can augment the FITU as need be and can easily cycle through like a PCA. 3) flexibility...not sure how AF pilot training works now days, but there's only 8 or 9 rides, a check then a form solo in the Navy student syllabus. The pig in the snake, if you will, will always be early contact flights, so the squadrons have the option to pull the instructor prior to getting form qualed to start instructing where he/she is needed and send them back to the FITU at a later date for forms. 4) Also, the instructor is already very familiar with the local area too. Not just getting out to gunshy/dogface and the nuances of flying in the local area , but his/her family is already in place and house is settled, etc. Plus, it saves time for TDY, check-in/check-out, etc. Negatives to this model are 1) it's not in San Antonio

Damn, we're getting chiefed by e-mail now?!?! I don't know whether to laugh or cry.

Interesting that Whiting course rules are of such infamy that they're talked about on a (predominantly) air force forum.

Duly noted.

How do you come to this conclusion, shipmate? Just by the posts on this forum? Seriously, not trying to attack you on it, just wondering.

We haven't flown since Monday. Hell, I haven't shaved since Tuesday or showered since Wednesday either. I have drank a lot of beer though.

Wonder what he did.

Thanks for the insight. I'm not sure if it qualifies as elective, but I think I'm right inside of 100 miles.

So I live in P-cola stationed with the navy. I've been seeing the orthodontist at Eglin, which is an hour and a half drive away. I really don't mind the drive and I'm happy with the care provided, however there have been some issues. Today, I had an appointment that had been canceled on me before, so before I made the drive today, I called to make sure I was still good to go. I was told yes, so I proceeded on my way to Eglin. Well, as luck would have it, I got a call right as I was about to pull through the gate...my doctor needed to cancel my appointment...30 minutes prior to my appointment time. So, not only did it take an act of God to get off the flying schedule so I could make it to my appointment, I drove an hour and a half each way for nothing after calling to confirm my appointment. Not only that, but if I call them to canx 30 min prior, my commander hears about it and I'm supposedly in trouble. (Not that my navy skipper would give two s**ts, but an E-3 or E-4 would get hounded). So, I suppose my question is, isn't there some distance that is deemed "too far" and I could see a local provider? Not sure what reg to even start with.

Date/location is more of what I was looking for.

Any idea when/where these were taken?

Cool. I don't have formflow at work, so I appreciate it.

I take it you get something other than this from that link?

I'm trying to write a couple LOEs and it's been a while. I've gone on e-publishing and can't seem to find the AF Form 77. Has it been replaced by something else? Is there any other way to write a letter of evaluation?

I'm not that guy. I just pulled it off the web. That is my squadron though and those T6B photos are all over the squadron. I wonder if we have permission to use them. Thanks for the website, I think I'm going to E-mail him and ask.

T6B

The pilots that are stationed with the AF that fly the navs around at P-cola do in fact go to PIT. The pilots stationed with the navy go through what they call the Fixed-Wing Instructor Training Unit (FITU), which is about 3 months of training stretched into 6 months at Whiting. Anyway, the reason I asked is because we just got word at Whiting that the AF will no longer train students at Whiting. The last AF student has already started the program. There are a bunch of casual students here that will PCS out to Columbus, Laughlin and Vance. Us instructors aren't so sure whats going to happen with staying or PCSing. One thing that was brought up was to transfer over to Pensacola and fly the A model. I was just wondering if I'd have to go through 4 months of PIT just to transfer over to the steam gauges.