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    in General Discussion

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    Ok, blame the victim. Got it. You would have handled it the same way because the females you talked to weren't offended. 1COs are allowed in vaults in other squadrons, but the concept that the vault is a protected area because no enlisted females are allowed in there is flawed. The threshold for appropriateness is not whether someone like Jen Smith is offended. It is whether it is appropriate for the workplace. Porn in the vault is just as bad as porn at the ops desk. How about the Sweet Lemonade video at the ops desk? That one was ok too?

    Yes, drawing the line is difficult. Notice I didn't get many answers to my question, where would you draw the line. Right below porn? Above a grainy picture of a Taliban molesting a goat? How about the slides about sex underage teens like the ones Jen Smith turned in to her lawyer? Let individuals judge themselves? Aren't we doing that now? Obviously the line has been raised above where it was. Our senior Air Force leadership, including the top fighter pilot, has decided that we will no longer tolerate the sexually offensive material and behavior we did last year. This was probably brought upon by the Jen Smith lawsuit and the embarrassing press that followed, and the unacceptably high number of sexual assaults in the AF. And by the fact our culture is evolving to not value overtly sexual behavior at work. Much like we did when we rejected the overtly racist behavior. Just because we did it xx years ago, doesn't mean it is right.

    Look, for the 8th time, I am not personally offended by this shit. I enjoy the good old fashioned Western culture that values sex, violence, and raunchy humor in our entertainment. My personal tolerance for offensive material is quite high, but also irrelevant to where our institution should draw the line. What we value in entertainment is not the same as what we value at work.

    The museums should not have changed anything with nose art, that is what museums are for. But we should not be putting the nose art that was acceptable in WWII on our current aircraft. And there is probably a line that needs to be drawn with regards to 10-15 sexy nose art pictures lining the halls of an ops squadron.

    The 69 discussion summarizes our current situation well. Many people think there is nothing wrong with using the number 69 and sts in order to sexualize a situation. This happens in the professional workplace. People like doing it, people do it by habit and people get pissed when you tell them to knock it off. The unnecessary sexualization of workplace actions and environments is wrong and should be stopped.

    And there is a difference between a picture of your wife wearing a bikini, posing on her knees like a swimsuit model, and a family photo with someone wearing a bikini. One is overtly sexual, the other not. The suitability is a judgment call that should be made by officers and SNCOs and validated/confirmed and enforced by commanders. We shouldn't be unreasonably sensitive and you could make a strong argument that the picture the sq/cc used in her exercise was not inappropriate. Make the argument, but don't just say we should accept every behavior and workplace material we used to because those were the good old days.

    You crack me up Viper.

    I am blaming the victim. It wasn't that the female that I talked to wasn't offended, it was that she never saw the shit in the squadron that Jen Smith dug up. She was known among her peers as a liar and a backstabber. She scoured the squadron computer network to find things to give to Sharon Burke. She went in the vault and dug through desk drawers and found a doofer book and a Playboy from 1987. The majority of the "exhibits" in her lawsuit are laughable. I don't know exactly where I would draw the line, but most of that shit wouldn't be over it. The problem was that the Capt she took her complaint to didn't know her backstabbing background and didn't take it seriously enough. Lesson learned.

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    I know it's against popular opinion, but I really appreciate hearing Liquid's thoughts on these items. It's already been quoted, but saying you ordered the removal of that specific nose art will make it a lot easier for an internet detective with a grudge to vet you out - FYI.

    Anyone toeing the party line this closely has little to worry about being outed.

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    in General Discussion

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    Post 547. Ok "Beaver", where do you draw the line? Let's pretend you are an officer and you lead people. What do you tolerate, on the scale of porn played on a work computer to a poster of your favorite sports team? There is a line on what is acceptable. The discussion should be about where the line is. I think it is sexual in nature with no other purpose. A picture of a woman in a bikini, posted by someone who likes to say "check out my hot wife" is above the line. Runners World magazine cover is below it. That picture is about sports, not sex. Unless the same idiot who has the "hot wife" photo also has 25 pictures of scantily clad female "athletes". That would be obviously sexual in nature and should be corrected. Not with a firing squad or referral OPR. With direct feedback that he is being an idiot and to knock it off. Not direct feedback from a Chief, or CPTS Sq/CC, but from everyone who sees it. This whole discussion is about where the line is drawn. Many think it is right below porn because of the sexualized society we live in. I think the threshold is much lower, primarily because it is the workplace and has nothing/nothing to do with defending the nation, killing people of precisely executing your mission.

    Did you read the IG report and CDI on the 55 FS? What did you think about the substantiated findings and punishment? What do you think about TSgt Smith's allegations and what would you say to her if you were her commander?

    Come on "Beaver", are you up for really talking about this bullshit?

    Oddly enough I flew in all the squadrons Jen Smith worked in at Shaw. I know every single person in her complaint (and I'm not one of them, despite my oh so offensive callsign). I also know and have corresponded with female airmen that she worked with. She went looking to be offended and she was. If I was her commander, who was also my commander, I would probably have handled it the same way he did, which obviously wasn't good enough for our sensitive TSgt.

    Good people got crushed for no good reason because of her. The fighter community is weaker because of it.

    I was not clear on that post. By beloved WWII nose art, I meant that nose art means a lot to me. I wasn't being a smart ass. I think it is a shame that we are removing nose art from our culture. My grandfather flew B-17s in the Bloody 100th and I own nose art. I did not like directing the removal of "Camera Shy" at our wing, but I did it and moved on. It is now not appropriate. It was at the time, but now it is not. We should preserve it in our museums and as a proud part of our heritage, but not as a part of our current culture. Specifically, the nose art that was acceptable in WWII is not acceptable on our aircraft today. Or on posters in our workplaces. I think it is unfortunate. I absolutely do not feel the same regret when it comes to stupid ass word games, sexually offensive traditions or most of the bullshit that was taken off the walls during the "purge".

    None. That doesn't mean it isn't the right thing to do. Do you think the Sweet Lemonade video at Balad contributed to the hostile work environment and sexual harassment experienced by TSgt Smith? How about the Doofer books and Fighter Pilot Song book she got from the vault? Do you agree with the findings in the CDI and IG report? Many of her allegations were unsubstantiated due to lack of evidence. Most of the substantiated allegations were for a failure of leadership. Were those commanders wrongly judged due to civilian pressures?

    And by the way, since you obviously don't know, a 1c0 doesn't have access to the vault, therefore shouldn't be exposed so the evil doofer book or songbook. Or the flyer posted in the men's room.

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    I just wanted to follow up with my original posts on the FNX-45 that can be found here: http://www.flyingsqu...post__p__353061 and here http://www.flyingsqu...post__p__353467

    Total round count through the pistol is 650. I don't want to use the 2 box of FMJ that I have left in .45 ACP. I also have a few hundred rounds of Winchester Ranger 230gr HPs which I will hold off on using through this pistol as well. You may recall that I had 2 failures to return to battery with the Winchester Ranger HPs. I ran another 150 FMJs after these failures with no issues. I will need to run some more HPs through it in order to give the gun a clean bill of health, however. The pistol has since been cleaned.

    I received the kydex OWB holster from KT Mech. The gun fits so tight when holstered that I am unable to draw it unless I use one hand to anchor the holster while drawing the pistol with the other hand... not good. I'm going to have to apply heat with the pistol in the holster and loosen it up a bit if I want to make it easier to draw. That being said, the holster and gun fit nicely on the belt and close to my body. I was able to conceal it with the clothing I typically wear, but extra care had to be taken when bending down because the butt of the gun would stick out. It is also somewhat uncomfortable to sit in the car as the butt of the gun digs into my back. I carry full size handguns just behind my right hip (about 4-5 o'clock). I think some of these issues could be mitigated if I used an IWB holster instead, but I have no plans on buying another holster for this gun. My other full size handguns carry much more comfortably OWB and IWB.

    Overall, I am pleased with this gun... so much so that I went out and bought an FNS-9. I was trying to decide between the FNX-9 and FNS-9, but ultimately decided on the FNS-9 because I was looking for a striker fired gun. I'll give a small review of that gun in the near future. I've already shot it and carried it. Between the FNX-45 and FNS-9, I am very impressed with FNH USA's handguns. It may replace my current carry gun (1911) once I decide between it and the Walther PPQ in 9mm I picked up.

    Most of the retention on a kydex holster is from the trigger guard.

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    in General Discussion

    Posted · Edited by Beaver

    I'm not easily offended, but my tolerance for inappropriate sexist behavior at work is very low. Words games based on sex jokes or traditions should go. So should saying sts after every double meaning, deliberately making a sexual reference where one did not exist. And yes, I think the call sign Beaver is stupid and inappropriate no matter how fond of mammals you are. Look up the rape songs on your own time. I know of at least ten. And to be clear, I don't give a shit what you anonymously post on the internet or do off duty. I'm talking about at work and in uniform.

    A) I actually haven't heard anyone say so to speak in quite a while. Nobody really cares anymore.

    B ) Beaver is a lame callsign, but not inappropriate unless you really want to be offended.

    3) This is my own time, and I'm asking the experts for enlightenment on rape songs. Please at least tell me the names of a few of your vast repertoire.

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    in General Discussion

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    Liquid,

    You want dudes to say "box," "head," etc despite their alternate definitions but you don't want dudes to have nicknames like Fingers or Crab due to their possible alternate definitions. Which is it? And what does Crab have to do with sex? Do you think Beaver is offensive? I think you and Jen Smith are trying so hard to be offended it would be impossible avoid.

    And what rape song is everyone talking about? S&M Man? S&M isn't necessarily rape, you know.

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    in General Discussion

    Posted

    To continue with this stupid analogy...

    You assume everyone wants to be a coach in the first place. Right now, your beloved system forces out great people who want nothing more than to be the QB their entire careers. They get penalized for daring to question the careerist path that you've chosen.

    It's all good. Eventually, all the QBs will leave, and you'll be forced to play with a team full of coaches and equipment managers, wondering what the hell happened. Best of luck.

    This kind of got skipped over. Liquid: what's your take on this? I have been thinking about the similarity between CAF and a high school football team vs. a NFL team in this regard. Self-supported and self-coached vs. professionally supported and coached (at the squadron level).

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