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2 hours ago, ihtfp06 said:
Don't do Blue. There are no upsides, but there are plenty of potentially negative consequences.
I mean at the time it was fun!
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3 hours ago, LumberjackAxe said:
Azimuth... Damn dude, that's a whack story.
But seriously, I hope you posting all this in public forums doesn't come back to bite you in the ass. I saw you dropped ranks and names in that reddit post... I too like to live a risky lifestyle, but whew... I hope no one comes running back at you with a defamation or libel lawsuit or anything else that would make your life miserable!
Thanks for your service, thanks for sharing your story and being so candid about getting boned by the AF, and I hope whatever new career you have treats you better! Stay thirsty my friend.
Here's a quote I heard from a JAG.
"I don't go up and tell pilots how to fly when I'm a passenger, I don't know why they keep telling me how to interpret the law."
So here's how libel and slander works. If I post your OSI interview video, where it's you talking, and then I post your sworn statements showing you lied, you can't be sued for libel or slander. Why? You would have the burden of proof to show that for one what I said was a lie (good luck) and then you'd have to proof how it defamed your character. You gave up the privacy stuff when you made those statements and you made those interviews. I didn't force you to do that.
Now if you'd like to "open the door" and take me to civil court over this then all of your lies are now admissible. And there aren't silly rules like Military Rule of Evidence 412 (Military version of the rape shield law) to potentially prevent evidence from coming in, like in a court martial.
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1 hour ago, BashiChuni said:
this is why the higher in rank you go the shittier your life...you have to deal with stuff like this
no thank you i'll just take a main order of flying with a small side of bs
and since you're airing it all out would you mind explaining to us simpletons your story/beef and what the hell is going on?
Well sure, if you must know. I was a MSgt KC-135 Boom Operator at a base in the PNW. I was recently divorced and paroled after four years imprisoned teaching in AETC. I started banging an Amn Boom, who didn't work for me from Sep 2014 to Dec 2014, then stopped. I hooked up with a SSgt Boom, who just happened to be friends and was the direct supervisor of the Amn, once Dec 2014 and once Mar 2015. We remained friends, flew together, went TDY together, but we all were dating other people.
A guy I know (SMSgt), who's been my boss twice, and I've been stationed with him for 12 straight years, found out about me banging these girls July 2015. I was on leave and once I came back he told me the SSgt was at a part at his house and blurted out my sexual past. I told him that it wasn't happening, hasn't happened in months, and we were all seeing other people. January 2016 I deployed for six months as OGV at the Deid and during this time my "buddy" was in the Group Chief's office getting upset over work stuff. He then decides he's going to play the deflection game and tell the Chief about my sexual past. The Chief then asked some questions, my buddy realizes he's said too much, and the OG/CC directs a CDI on me for an unprofessional relationship.
The SSgt gets pulled into the Shirt's office and on a sworn statement was asked if she ever had sexual interaction with me, she wrote no. She then called the Amn, who's at instructor upgrade at Altus at this time, told her they're investigating me for banging them, and that she lied. The next day the SSgt went to the SARC, told her she lied, the SARC said she needs to tell OSI, so she does which makes it an unrestricted sexual assault report and now a OSI investigation. She claimed that I randomly walked into her room at the Deid the first time we had sex, she was on Ambien, and we had sex, but she never told me no or stop or that she was on Ambien. The second time we had sex she claimed that she wanted to prove to me that "she was in charge of her body and I couldn't make her feel that way again." She claimed she never reported the alleged assault because she didn't want to be sent home and was trying to break her lease via SCRA.
The day after the SSgt alleged that I sexually assaulted her the Amn is pulled into the Shirt's office at Altus. She's asked the same questionnaire about me. When asked, under oath, if she ever had sexual interaction with me, she wrote no. Then when she came back to here she claimed I always sexually harassed her. I was brought home early, fired from my job, and sent to work in OGV pushing paper. In May 2016 my Sq/CC suspended my AO's and I lost my flight pay. June 2016 he preferred charges of Article 120, sexual assault of the SSgt, Article 93 Maltreatment of the SSgt and Amn for verbal sexual harassment, and Article 92 Dereliction of Duty for having an Unprofessional Relationships.
During the time a TSgt, who used to work for me and banged these girls as well (he's a swinger, wife does cam porn), warned me of the investigation when it first kicked off, told me it was bullshit and he'd take the stand in my defense, these girls are liars, etc. So imagine my surprise when I started to get Discovery evidence from the government and I see two statements from him saying I told him I raped these girls, things I never said or did, etc.
In June 2016 the Amn requests and Expedited Transfer to the midwest to be by her best friend and her hometown. August 2016 I had my Article 32 hearing, which in today's sexual assault witch hunt for convictions, is a joke. Both "complaining witnesses" didn't have to attend. Previous to 2013 MCM changes they would've had to testify and thus be cross-examined. It was about 30-40 minutes. October 2016 the Convening Authority of a General Court Martial (18 AF/CC for me) referred charges against me. December 2014 I had a motions hearing where all the girls were there, motions were hashed out, MRE 412 (Military Rape Shield Rule) issues were sorted out, etc.
January 2017 my General Court Martial started. It was three days. I pled not guilty to all charges and specifications. I was acquitted of the sexual assault of the SSgt and sexual harassment of the Amn. I was found guilty of the maltreatment of the SSgt cause we used to joke around sexually to each other and both specifications of unprofessional relationship. I was sentenced to reduction to SSgt and a reprimand.
February 2017 I was notified I was being sent to a Administrative Discharge Board. April 2017 I was told that I was to be separated and given a General Under Honorable Conditions discharge. During this time the SSgt was told she had to go TDY, she said that wasn't going to happen, she was handed an LOC for not doing her job, next day she PCS'd to a Florida base.
15 June 2017 I was separated from the Air Force at 16 years, 3 months, 9 days.
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1 hour ago, GlassEmpty said:
To be fair, this started with some personal attack which is a bit ridiculous.
Anyone have any insight on if this is getting kicked around up top?
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Well the AETC/CC was the first person to download the evidence. I sent it via AMRDEC and had it setup to authenticate with CAC and to notify if anyone downloaded it.
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16 minutes ago, FUSEPLUG said:
Yeah. Makes me wonder how management is going to sweep this one under the rug. Right now I envision a dozen execs at HQ/AMC/AETC hurriedly filtering their boss's e-mail before he checks his/her Blackberry (or whatever they use these days) while on he 7th hole.
Fairchild legal apparently is trying to accuse my ADC of giving me unteracted copies of evidence via discovery. Legal are the people who gave me the evidence 16 Jun 16 literally right after my Sq/CC charged me. They hand receipted it me.
Then legal claimed I posted a bunch of privacy information online. However they can show what information I posted that violated privacy. They're upset they were so quick to give me the boot they didn't realize they lost jurisdiction of me the day before I sent the email.
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1 minute ago, Duck said:
So it seems like you two know each other.
Sent from my iPhone using Baseops Network ForumsWell yeah, he's the FE to make sure you guys run checklists on -60's. I just work for a fruit company.
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19 minutes ago, uhhello said:
There it is. Love it. Enjoy your "top 25" job.
If you only knew what I did, but you don't. It's nice being in an organization that actual values their people and invests in them. Not uses them until they burn out. The benefits are great too.
You can talk shit, go run to AFEF and tell them how you were the keyboard warrior of the day. But there are other people, on this board no less, who went through something similar I did and they supported me along the way.
Enjoy the sinking ship.
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27 minutes ago, uhhello said:
I know. Can you fix my phone?
What's wrong with it? Was it damaged when you help wreck that -60?
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2 hours ago, uhhello said:
Karma is a bitch sometimes.
Hi, I'm Ryan who made that post.
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1 hour ago, SurelySerious said:
Maybe the Qataris should use those C-17s for something other than transporting the crown Lambos and Tigers.
They can't do that when they're doing high speed brake checks to "burn off excess fuel" and catching the brakes on fire.
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1 hour ago, Sparkle said:
EN 17-06
Active:
F-22 x 2
T-6 FAIP x 1
F-15E x 2
A-10 x 2
F-16 x 3
F-15C x 2
T-38 FAIP x 1
B-52 x 1 (not fighter/FAIP qual'd)
Guard/Reserve:
F-16 x 1Foreign:
Italian Eurofighter x 1
German Tornado x 3One of the F-22 studs was a prior Boom I flew with in Boom school. Phenomenal dude.
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10 hours ago, HuggyU2 said:
Posted so you can "friend him"...
https://www.facebook.com/colonelpatrickjrhatigan
Of course, once you do, drop him a note and say hi.
When he was a Sq/CC at KSKA, he would print out your emails, call you in his office, and berate you about your poor grammar and not knowing your past participles or whatever. Of course he was an English major at the Zoo and SECAF speech writer.
He also hated being included in Sq wide emails. So you would have to click the plus sign in email distro address and remove him, as the Sq/CC, or he'd call you in his office and berate you about "spamming his inbox."
Good riddance
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1 hour ago, FourFans130 said:
Azimuth, you everyone beer for posting that picture.
Good riddance!
You might as well have posted a picture of this guy.
(DISCLAIMER: If you were in the 41 AS in the 2008-2009 time frame, don't click that link, you already know who it is.)
FF
Rat was my CC twice. He's by far the worst. Only guy that might come close is Ole 777.
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My old boss made it. I'm sure he was really concerned as he was in the middle of Southwest 737 training...
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Heard the airlines didn't send their CEO's and sent "reps" instead.
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11 minutes ago, BADFNZ said:
It's funny because the last few we've sent to Phoenix from the Herk were the sewn-in kneepad types that we wanted out of the community. You're welcome.
We sent a guy to the -17 who failed boldface on his IP check in his previous MWS. He was only concerned about possibly getting Q-3'd and how it might affect his Phoenix application.
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1 hour ago, 08Dawg said:
I dunno if we wholesale stole the idea, but AFGSC has the Stiker Vista program now. First round sent Bone guys to Buffs and vice versa. The next round, we're in a full-on three way (STS). B-2 to Bone, Buff to Bone, Bone to Buff.
Didn't you guys already do that at the senior leader level? I know KBAD's last Wing Queen was career B-2's and your current one is a Bone WSO.
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42 minutes ago, Herk Driver said:
About things that "allegedly" happened while he was still on active duty. Not the case with Flynn, at least from what we know so far.
Sent from my iPhone using Baseops Network ForumsReally doesn't matter if he did it on AD or not. As long as he's drawing retirement, Uncle Sugar can recall him back, and punish him via the UCMJ per 10 U.S. Code § 80. The Marines just did that to a retired Gunnery Sergeant who committed his crimes years after retiring. He's now in prison and will be getting a Dishonorable Discharge.
http://www.jag.navy.mil/courts/documents/archive/2017/DINGER-201600108-PUB.pdf
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6 minutes ago, dream big said:
Agreed, with one exception and the guy that comes to mind was phenomenal in the plane after he came to tankers and now is one his way up; most tanker guys that came to 130s were skilled careerists who could not fly the plane to save their lives. Likewise, my tanker bros want to punch me in the face after some of the "HPOs" we sent to tankers. Want a prime example of Phoenix debaucherry? Little Rock AFB under Rhat, tanker guy leading THE c-130 hub of the world. Good lord the toxicity that came under him was unprecedented. Now this is not to say it was because he was a tanker guy, it provides evidence of what kind of "guy" Phoenix types usually are.
Yes, eliminate Phoenix. And stop making our weapons officers Wing execs.
I don't think ACC does this at all?: making viper guys eagle guys or vice versa for career reasons? Seems the CAF values depth while AMC values breadth = not being proficient in your airplane..
First, agreed. Second, I had Rat as a Sq/CC at home station and deployed. Check his bio, he was a -21/-141/-17 guy. He was Selva's Wing Exec at McChord while flying the -141. For the record Rat HATED the KC-135. He is the exact reason why the PHOENIX program should be canned. He only came to the -135 to get command, that was it.
Funny, some of the biggest "skilled careerists" in my neck of the MAF are crossflow -130 guys who volunteer for every GO visit, leadership "lunch and learn", and cookie bake off.
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This is for prior-E Officers but according to the VA if you paid the $1,200 for the MGIB (the $600 kicker doesn't apply) you'll receive it back in the final payment of the Post 9/11 as long as you're receiving BAH while you use the Post 9/11.
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In AMC (which is probably the most toxic community) get rid of the PHOENIX programs. You get career Airlifters in Tanker squadrons that:
1. Don't give a shit about the mission or community.
2. Are only there to check the box and get command.
3. Never grew up in the community, so of course they don't know how it's ran.
Same could be said for the Tanker "management" that goes to command Airlift squadrons. Also the majority of folks who PHOENIX programs are the ones that sucked in their original MWS and never flew. But they're the ones who were the Exec/CAG/Guy who shouldn't be flying, so of course they'll get a great strat. Then they'll cross flow into the other side of AMC where they'll be Exec/ADO guy who doesn't fly a lot, doesn't know the new jet at all, and is just hanging on to go to school.
Other communities don't do this type of program, don't know why the MAF feels why they have too.
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Archie Lichte lost two stars due to an accusation from an accuser who wouldn't even state on a sworn statement her accusation.
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8 hours ago, pawnman said:
We're getting our first AMC guys to the B-1 pretty soon. The BUFF guys were pretty good performers through the B-course, I see no reason the AMC guys won't do just as well.
My base (-135's) just sent one to the B-1 and one to the B-52.
What's wrong with the Air Force?
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Enlisted can't be charged with Art 133 Conduct Unbecoming and Art 134 Fraternization (well just the Air Force, the Navy/Marines can charge their Enlisted with Art 134). There are three subsections of Article 92:
1 - Violation or failure to obey a lawful general order or regulation.
2 - Violation or failure to obey a lawful order.
3 - Dereliction of duty. The accused should have known, or reasonably of known, his duty via a treaty, statue, regulation, lawful order, standard operating procedure, or custom of the service.
I didn't technically violate AFI 36-2909 (not the AETC sup one) because I wasn't their direct supervisor, they weren't even in my flight. Also the AFI states that refer of charges to a court martial shouldn't be done unless it's an extreme case...so you were told multiple times to stop your relationship, received paperwork/Art 15, and continued it anyway. Also least punitive means should be used to terminate the relationships (which we had terminated ourselves years prior).
I think at the end of the day the panel members just couldn't get over the fact a MSgt was fucking a SSgt and a Amn due to the rank disparity. I honestly believe that had I been a SSgt, I wouldn't of been found guilty, or possibly even charged, with Art 92(3) Dereliction of Duty. But I'll never know.