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  1. So I'm just curious, what happens when the election comes and goes and no one ever substantiates any of this stuff? Not saying that will happen, but I think we can all agree this, or any administration in recent history isn't necessarily trustworthy. We're a week out, and everyone with all this proof, except for the super reputable sources quoted by torqued, are mum. And who knows, maybe they're going to drop all these bombshells. At this point, nothing is surprising... What are all of you die-hard Trumpeters going to say? Wait, I know, you'll say #fakenews... Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk
  2. I think you should make your point pretty quick here... Sent from my iPad using Tapatalk
  3. Totally agree. They deserve equal rights 100%, but the second they go after religious institutions to force/bend them to their will that doesn't have anything to do with individual rights, especially with religious institutions that aren't trying to shove their beliefs down their throats, I'll help hold the line there. Do me the favor of not reading into other things here. I'm specifically talking about equal rights. After that, we're not on the same page. I have friends in that community, and I don't judge them even if I don't agree with them. Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk
  4. Great, succint wrap-up. Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk
  5. I'm not sure if we're agreeing or not based on this scenario. Sorry. I'm advocating that we should treat them in the same way as straight couples. Maybe that wasn't clear before... Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk
  6. Please, show me how I’m misinterpreting what you said, and therefore “educating” you... You seemed to take offense to something that wasn’t said, so I clarified because you and Guardian are definitely alike in your seeming love to “educate” people from some position of perceived superiority. Honestly, it was a compliment. I should have been more generous with the praise first. Often, guys like you and Guardian do a great job holding people to high standards. Occasionally, you seem to come from some invisible high horse and ignore what people have actually said in some perceived attempt at showing everyone just how brilliant you are. You’re doing it right now... Your passive aggressive comments like, “I can never tell if you are intentionally obtuse...” are perfect examples. Please, highlight my logical fallacies and unsupported hyperbole in the (acknowledged in my post) opinion above... To answer one of your criticisms: I liken it to hate (I think hate is fairly strong, and most people don’t truly hate[emoji2373] IMHO), never called it hate. My apologies for using the term “hate on” in this case. I think hating on something is different than hating something, but I don’t know a similar term thatto use that, as easily, gets the same idea across. I made my point about Christ because he never specifically tried to limit people’s actions. He educated, counseled, encouraged, but never forced anyone to obey him. I fail to see how laws limiting who someone is allowed to marry isn’t oppression. I also, from a religious perspective, don’t agree with the LGBTQ community, but until they try to come around and start hurting other people’s lives, I don’t think the government has any place imposing its will on them. Pence disagrees on the semantics of the word marriage? Fine, allow civil unions that hold equal rights as a religious marriage... Easy, peasy. Gay marriage is very different than second amendment or illegal immigration issues, so this is 100% an instance of you falsely correlating these things to try and slip your point across. Explain to me, outside of religious terms, how gay marriage infringes on the safety, or rights of others, or unfairly taxes straight people. I can show you how a stance against immigration or guns points to people’s safety and/or rights. I happen to be in favor of gun rights, but think the conversation needs to be had on how to stop mentally ill people from accessing them. I happen to be in favor of ending illegal immigration, but don’t agree that it should be as difficult or as expensive for people to naturalize. Pence could be an amazing member of whatever congregation he belongs to. I don’t think Pence is a bad person at all. I know lots of great members of my church. That doesn’t mean I want their rigidly unbending ideas on the world governing how I live my life... If you think liberals are the ones that hate Romney now, I suggest you drive up and down I-15 in UT where there are billboards wishing him to go away. Paid for by conservatives because he’s openly opposed Trump... Once again, I’m not trying to convince you to change your mind. Just showing where I perceive you’re being disingenuous. Notice the word perceive and perception. I use it a lot because I can never be sure I am fully understanding what people are saying on the WWW. Maybe I’m the one with reading comprehension issues, but that’s how your posts come across to me. The fact that baseops.net is an echo chamber for people who think similarly to you emboldens you to continue “educating” people. Keep calling me, or inferring that I’m a liberal. Doesn’t hurt my feelings. I feel like I’m in a tiny group of conservatives who sees this Admin for what it really is, a danger not only to our country, but the world. That’s two people (you and me) who think they’re each on the right side of an opinion. That’s all most of this is, an opinion... I wholeheartedly agree with you that all of this is incredibly beneficial dialogue, and it needs to continue. Sent from my iPad using Tapatalk
  7. Show me where Pence has done anything to change his opinion. Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk
  8. Let me also say, I think Harris is lousy and I would never vote for her. This is truly the most difficult vote I've ever participated in... Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk
  9. Reading comprehension guys. It's important. I cited you because you wouldn't put up with the ridiculously poor and bogus arguments Trump makes. Not because you defended him ever. It was a hypothetical, fake scenario. Agree to disagree. Opinion warning and it probably is controversial in an environment where everyone seems to think this admin is infallible: Pence strikes me as incredibly self-righteous. I don't understand Christians that hate on LGBTQ, or aren't compassionate towards people that suffer oppression at the hands of others. Christ never "hated" on anyone for being different or even doing stuff he said they shouldn't (except the money changers in the temple), but evangelicals can be some pretty hateful people "in the name of Christ" at times. Don't get it. Not trying to convince anyone or change their minds. The above was my opinion only, and what better place to share it than the internet... I'd love for people to change their minds or even just be open to it, but I'm a realist... Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk
  10. I listened to about 30 minutes before falling asleep (it was riveting...) and they both suck. Joe wasn’t incredibly articulate, but I didn’t think it was from being lost or confused. I’m no Dr though. It seemed like frustration. Trump would get eaten alive on this forum as he makes all sorts of outrageous, unproven claims without citing jack all... Guardian and Lord Ratner would be constantly saying “disingenuous!” or “straw man” to him because that’s what he does... No needle movement whatsoever. Two politicians (as much as Trump claims he’s not, it took him about 4 years to turn into what he rails against) doing what they do. Claiming what they are going to do, or what they have done. For whoever said vote for VP, that’s a clear cut choice, I wholeheartedly disagree. Pence seems like a hollow shell of a man. No character, and for someone as religious as he claims to be, I see it as a problem to just sit there, quiet, while one of the most seemingly immoral men we’ve ever had as sitting POTUS does what he does and says what he says. Both VPs are horrendous as well. Maybe I’ll give Kanye the nod...[emoji23] Sent from my iPad using Tapatalk
  11. One of THE only things I like about Trump is the fact that he calls out European countries in their weakness, and other countries doing crappy things. I wish he were more "presidential" about it, but it's a good thing, long overdue. Outside of that, he's an absolute disaster. Not trying to convince you, not asking you to convince me. For the record, I hold Biden barely, barely above Trump. I've been staring at my ballot for almost a week. Not voting Trump for sure, but I can't quite make myself vote for Biden either... Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk
  12. Ok, typos from time to time are totally understandable on these dumb phones with autocorrect, but your grammar is consistently off just enough to be a troll or a bot. I speak 4 languages fluently. You have enough mistakes made by non-native speakers that it's questionable. Maybe you grew up in a non-english speaking house, if so, that's cool. I got no problem with it, just saying, you sound shady... Who's our smart people with sniffing these trolls out? He literally only posts propaganda. Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk
  13. Dude, Flea, KA, Guardian and many others have about a thousand times more credibility than you. Maybe you're legit, my apologies if you are, but you scream "troll" from the rooftop... Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk
  14. Don't have tons of time, but your idea of a personal attack is seemingly very broad... I say they're old because I know they're already retired. I'm almost there, but they went years ago, so at least older than me, and I'm older than a lot. I stand by my statement. Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk
  15. "how much fake they are". Seriously, I hope that was a typo, or you're going to have trouble with your GRU supervisor. Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk
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