FLY6584 Posted May 21, 2014 Share Posted May 21, 2014 Never received an e-mail, but when I check my "previous application" under "self service actions" it said the following: "The Air Force Personnel Center has approved the maximum allowable voluntary applications for your AFSC/grade/year group/RDTM code or specific weapon system, or your AFSC/grade/year group has been removed from eligibility for this year's programs due to adjustments to manpower requirements. Based on this action, your application has been returned. As a result, you and other Airmen in your AFSC/grade/year group are no longer eligible for any FY14 voluntary or involuntary force management programs." So does that mean we are eligible for the FY15 programs such as the VSP/RIF? You would think a phone call to the TFSC would answer this question, but no surprise they haven't a clue. It figures AFPC would release more confusing information like this right before the FY15 VSP is supposed to open. Does anyone proofread shit at AFPC before sending it out?!?!?!?! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dreamkiller43 Posted May 21, 2014 Share Posted May 21, 2014 Anyone with approved VSP apps going to try to push their separation date past September? As eager as I am to leave, having a couple extra months to get my life together would certainly help. Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FBomb Posted May 21, 2014 Share Posted May 21, 2014 (edited) Any bets on when AFPC releases the PSDMs for the FY15 VSP seeing as tomorrow the new window opens? Edited May 21, 2014 by FBomb Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chizz Posted May 21, 2014 Share Posted May 21, 2014 H-model IP Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
krazyivan Posted May 21, 2014 Share Posted May 21, 2014 Denied. 04 11S If the next round has a blue block for my year group I'm going to have some words with AFPC.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cornholio5 Posted May 21, 2014 Share Posted May 21, 2014 Any word on any '03 VSP approvals yet? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bjax Posted May 21, 2014 Share Posted May 21, 2014 Any bets on when AFPC releases the PSDMs for the FY15 VSP seeing as tomorrow the new window opens? FBomb, here is a link. The matrices and other related information was posted about two weeks ago. As you will notice the 04 and 05 year groups are grayed out. Weird how looking at this site it seems like most of the people approved were in those year groups and the matrices were posted well before the VSP results. So I have hope for the next round of cuts. https://gum-crm.csd.disa.mil/app/answers/detail/a_id/27606/related/1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FBomb Posted May 21, 2014 Share Posted May 21, 2014 (edited) FBomb, here is a link. The matrices and other related information was posted about two weeks ago. As you will notice the 04 and 05 year groups are grayed out. Weird how looking at this site it seems like most of the people approved were in those year groups and the matrices were posted well before the VSP results. So I have hope for the next round of cuts. https://gum-crm.csd.disa.mil/app/answers/detail/a_id/27606/related/1 Old news. I'm looking for the PSDM that 14-38 references as the guidance for the VSP window to open tomorrow. As usual, AFPC does not fail to disappoint on the promise to meet a suspense. Edit: Ok just checked, new FY15 VSP and TERA PSDMs are on MyPers. Only looked at the VSP program, basically a clone of the FY14 VSP with the same ADSC waivers, etc. As bjax pointed out, the documents all refer to the RIF slides, but they are still dated 02 May. Good luck all. Edited May 21, 2014 by FBomb Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MooseAg03 Posted May 21, 2014 Share Posted May 21, 2014 So if my year group/AFSC/RTDM is closed out is there any sense in applying for FY15 VSP? Good question. Who wants to go through 6 more months of getting jerked around if they aren't going to cut any more? However, the SECAF's recent words allude to more cuts than what we are seeing right now. We had discussion a while back about the limited funds available for Force Shaping this fiscal year. The budget is much larger next year. I'm not sure we can rely on AFPC to update the matrices in time for the next VSP window so I have no idea what to do. The uncertainty over the past few months almost made my wife kill me. Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
flying_bulldog Posted May 22, 2014 Share Posted May 22, 2014 '07 11R (U2) denied. Standard ADSCs (UPT, PCS). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
outlaw05 Posted May 22, 2014 Share Posted May 22, 2014 2006 11m (C-130J); Denied... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chim richalds Posted May 22, 2014 Share Posted May 22, 2014 I wish they'd release what made the difference in approving or not. Looks like if you have ever stepped foot in a c-17 you are cleared off automatically. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BoneIP Posted May 22, 2014 Share Posted May 22, 2014 Good question. Who wants to go through 6 more months of getting jerked around if they aren't going to cut any more? However, the SECAF's recent words allude to more cuts than what we are seeing right now. We had discussion a while back about the limited funds available for Force Shaping this fiscal year. The budget is much larger next year. I'm not sure we can rely on AFPC to update the matrices in time for the next VSP window so I have no idea what to do. The uncertainty over the past few months almost made my wife kill me. Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk I would also like to know if I am still eligible for FY14 palace chase since the email said I am no longer eligible for FY14 voluntary programs. I sent the following to the TFSC today, it is listed as "elevated" now. not sure the source data is 100% correct, but looks like no more 11B's were selected regardless of the matrix numbers. "How is it that zero 11B's are getting approved for separation on this final round? Your matrix had multiple 11B's in several different year groups still remaining, how can you say you met your quota without approving anyone?? Are you looking for IG complaints? is there an appeal process for VSP disapprovals??" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sky_king Posted May 22, 2014 Share Posted May 22, 2014 Any of the pit students get VSP? Yep, he was about half way through the program. He flew first go and was scheduled to fly second go, but they pulled him from the flight. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chizz Posted May 22, 2014 Share Posted May 22, 2014 How do you know none of the 11Bs that applied were approved? Have you gone to every person that applied and asked what their status is? And what do you think threatening an IG complaint is going to do, make them approve people? Not everyone that was approved is going to post their status on BODN. You have to realize that just because they weren't approved through the VSP (pay), they could have decided to simply separate. Or for someone that still has an ADSC, they could have found a job through palace chase and that will subtract from the overages as well. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mimpdaddy Posted May 22, 2014 Share Posted May 22, 2014 (edited) How many '04 approvals had already pinned on Major when they submitted their FY14 VSP applications? My guess is zero. They Dont want to pay the majors to get out. However, many '04 guys will pin on by 29 Sept and get Major pay upon separation anyways. '04 11M C-17 IP on white jet tour Pinned on 1 Jan Denied Edited May 22, 2014 by Mimpdaddy Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
audioflyer Posted May 22, 2014 Share Posted May 22, 2014 11R 2008 - Disapproved for VSP due to AFSC/year group being full. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pawnman Posted May 22, 2014 Share Posted May 22, 2014 How do you know none of the 11Bs that applied were approved? Have you gone to every person that applied and asked what their status is? And what do you think threatening an IG complaint is going to do, make them approve people? Not everyone that was approved is going to post their status on BODN. You have to realize that just because they weren't approved through the VSP (pay), they could have decided to simply separate. Or for someone that still has an ADSC, they could have found a job through palace chase and that will subtract from the overages as well. There's at least one in my squadron that PC'd. I don't know if he had an ADSC or not. Major, 11B, evaluator, B-1s. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
StretchJr Posted May 22, 2014 Share Posted May 22, 2014 Anybody hear any additional info about medical officer VSP, besides the message that was posted a few days ago? (Specifically wondering about 2008 46N - Nurse) Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Emer Msn Updated Posted May 22, 2014 Share Posted May 22, 2014 '06 11M KC-10 type filling an RPA billet disapproved yesterday. Don't think I've heard of any other KC-10 or even other tanker dudes in general getting approved. Dropped my FY15 VSP app in the system this morning at 6. Let the next fiasco begin... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
baileynme Posted May 22, 2014 Share Posted May 22, 2014 '06 11M KC-10 type filling an RPA billet disapproved yesterday. Don't think I've heard of any other KC-10 or even other tanker dudes in general getting approved. Dropped my FY15 VSP app in the system this morning at 6. Let the next fiasco begin... There were at least two from my previous 135 Sq. Posted from the NEW Baseops.net App! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BoneIP Posted May 22, 2014 Share Posted May 22, 2014 How do you know none of the 11Bs that applied were approved? Have you gone to every person that applied and asked what their status is? And what do you think threatening an IG complaint is going to do, make them approve people? Not everyone that was approved is going to post their status on BODN. You have to realize that just because they weren't approved through the VSP (pay), they could have decided to simply separate. Or for someone that still has an ADSC, they could have found a job through palace chase and that will subtract from the overages as well. I have been in touch with three of the four bases with eligible 11B's who applied, (not counting whiteman) the ball is in their court to prove me wrong or provide some data to the contrary, I dont have every data point but enough to make an educated guess.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
10percenttruth Posted May 22, 2014 Share Posted May 22, 2014 How do you know none of the 11Bs that applied were approved? Have you gone to every person that applied and asked what their status is? And what do you think threatening an IG complaint is going to do, make them approve people? Not everyone that was approved is going to post their status on BODN. You have to realize that just because they weren't approved through the VSP (pay), they could have decided to simply separate. Or for someone that still has an ADSC, they could have found a job through palace chase and that will subtract from the overages as well. This Also, if I were a betting man, I'd say the Bone will take the lions share of whatever 11B releases materialize. Something about "Key Nuclear Billets" or some such buzzword that keeps Buff & B-2 guys in the same incestuous PCS circle till they die. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BoneIP Posted May 22, 2014 Share Posted May 22, 2014 How do you know none of the 11Bs that applied were approved? Have you gone to every person that applied and asked what their status is? And what do you think threatening an IG complaint is going to do, make them approve people? Not everyone that was approved is going to post their status on BODN. You have to realize that just because they weren't approved through the VSP (pay), they could have decided to simply separate. Or for someone that still has an ADSC, they could have found a job through palace chase and that will subtract from the overages as well. and screw the IG, I'm going straight to Barbara Walters! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chizz Posted May 22, 2014 Share Posted May 22, 2014 I hope she doesn't make you cry during the interview like she did to Oprah; or your career then takes the path of the two F-22 whistleblowers. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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