FY 14 Force Management Program (RIF, VSP, TERA)

[pawnman]

How do you know none of the 11Bs that applied were approved? Have you gone to every person that applied and asked what their status is? And what do you think threatening an IG complaint is going to do, make them approve people? Not everyone that was approved is going to post their status on BODN.

You have to realize that just because they weren't approved through the VSP (pay), they could have decided to simply separate. Or for someone that still has an ADSC, they could have found a job through palace chase and that will subtract from the overages as well.

There's at least one in my squadron that PC'd. I don't know if he had an ADSC or not. Major, 11B, evaluator, B-1s.

[StretchJr]

Anybody hear any additional info about medical officer VSP, besides the message that was posted a few days ago? (Specifically wondering about 2008 46N - Nurse)

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[Emer Msn Updated]

'06 11M KC-10 type filling an RPA billet disapproved yesterday. Don't think I've heard of any other KC-10 or even other tanker dudes in general getting approved.

Dropped my FY15 VSP app in the system this morning at 6. Let the next fiasco begin...

[baileynme]

'06 11M KC-10 type filling an RPA billet disapproved yesterday. Don't think I've heard of any other KC-10 or even other tanker dudes in general getting approved.

Dropped my FY15 VSP app in the system this morning at 6. Let the next fiasco begin...

There were at least two from my previous 135 Sq.

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[BoneIP]

How do you know none of the 11Bs that applied were approved? Have you gone to every person that applied and asked what their status is? And what do you think threatening an IG complaint is going to do, make them approve people? Not everyone that was approved is going to post their status on BODN.

You have to realize that just because they weren't approved through the VSP (pay), they could have decided to simply separate. Or for someone that still has an ADSC, they could have found a job through palace chase and that will subtract from the overages as well.

I have been in touch with three of the four bases with eligible 11B's who applied, (not counting whiteman) the ball is in their court to prove me wrong or provide some data to the contrary, I dont have every data point but enough to make an educated guess..

[10percenttruth]

How do you know none of the 11Bs that applied were approved? Have you gone to every person that applied and asked what their status is? And what do you think threatening an IG complaint is going to do, make them approve people? Not everyone that was approved is going to post their status on BODN.

You have to realize that just because they weren't approved through the VSP (pay), they could have decided to simply separate. Or for someone that still has an ADSC, they could have found a job through palace chase and that will subtract from the overages as well.

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Also, if I were a betting man, I'd say the Bone will take the lions share of whatever 11B releases materialize. Something about "Key Nuclear Billets" or some such buzzword that keeps Buff & B-2 guys in the same incestuous PCS circle till they die.

[BoneIP]

How do you know none of the 11Bs that applied were approved? Have you gone to every person that applied and asked what their status is? And what do you think threatening an IG complaint is going to do, make them approve people? Not everyone that was approved is going to post their status on BODN.

You have to realize that just because they weren't approved through the VSP (pay), they could have decided to simply separate. Or for someone that still has an ADSC, they could have found a job through palace chase and that will subtract from the overages as well.

and screw the IG, I'm going straight to Barbara Walters!

[chizz]

I hope she doesn't make you cry during the interview like she did to Oprah; or your career then takes the path of the two F-22 whistleblowers.

[crwfshkid]

FY15 VSP PSDM: This is not a “first-come/first-served” program. Applications will be processed for eligibility, but held for adjudication and approval until the application window closes.

Let the goat-rope begin...

[Disco_Nav963]

How do you know none of the 11Bs that applied were approved? Have you gone to every person that applied and asked what their status is? And what do you think threatening an IG complaint is going to do, make them approve people? Not everyone that was approved is going to post their status on BODN.

You have to realize that just because they weren't approved through the VSP (pay), they could have decided to simply separate. Or for someone that still has an ADSC, they could have found a job through palace chase and that will subtract from the overages as well.

The 11B wing exec at KMIB was approved... So there's that.

[Xtndr]

There were at least 6 KC-10 approvals that I know of between wri and suu. Not entirely sure of the year group

[Mish_Hacker]

The 11B wing exec at KMIB was approved... So there's that.

What year group was he? I've only heard of 02 and earlier bomber pilots approved...

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[FUEL]

Denied.

'08 11M (KC-135) still at an AMC base, but RPA training completed earlier this month (TDY out and back). ADSC for RPA training listed even when I applied early April (re-apply after it was returned for disapproval do to verbiage). In hindsight, since my PAS code and AFSC were still AMC I should have fought to keep that ADSC off until I finished training. That was the only thing on my application that showed RPA.

2x KC-135 '08 11Ms approved at my base and I know of at least 1 other '08. Similarly, one '08 11M (KC-135) disapproved that just arrived at his RPA base.

[Kitten Mittens]

New matrix out this afternoon according to TFSC

[MooseAg03]

Just as many of us thought, RPA stink seems to be bad for approval chances. So much for only looking at our RTDM code.

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[spaw2001]

A bunch of 11M rpa dudes were approved at creech so not sure what the methodology is

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[crwfshkid]

Matrix is live. Still overages for my AFSC/YG. Makes no sense.

[chizz]

Denied.

'08 11M (KC-135) still at an AMC base, but RPA training completed earlier this month (TDY out and back). ADSC for RPA training listed even when I applied early April (re-apply after it was returned for disapproval do to verbiage). In hindsight, since my PAS code and AFSC were still AMC I should have fought to keep that ADSC off until I finished training. That was the only thing on my application that showed RPA.

2x KC-135 '08 11Ms approved at my base and I know of at least 1 other '08. Similarly, one '08 11M (KC-135) disapproved that just arrived at his RPA base.

Correct, it is criminal how they speed and put those ADSCs on our SURF When we haven't even completed, let alone started training. Why do I have to sign the ADSC when I get the assignment notification? Stop speeding and I will sign it upon graduation. They tried to get a bunch of guys to sign adscs for requal. False! IP school, FALSE! If it runs concurrent with one that extends past the one I am signing, why are we even wasting our time with this extra paperwork?

Career development is right up there with AFPC in my mind. No one knows how to implement their own guidance.

[Egghead]

I have been in touch with three of the four bases with eligible 11B's who applied, (not counting whiteman) the ball is in their court to prove me wrong or provide some data to the contrary, I dont have every data point but enough to make an educated guess..

An 11B T-38 IP at Laughlin got VSP. Don't know year group.

[tunes]

so base mpf is saying no 20 days of PTDY with VSP...anyone else dealing with that? even though the q&a, psdm, and afi say we get it?

[airline_guy]

'06 11M KC-10 type filling an RPA billet disapproved yesterday. Don't think I've heard of any other KC-10 or even other tanker dudes in general getting approved.

I'm an 11M 2008 KC-135 guy currently flying T-1s and I was approved.

[BamaC-21]

I'm taking some PTDY with palace chase and have had no issues. 36-3003 table 7 pretty clearly says you get it.

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[Azimuth]

'06 11M KC-10 type filling an RPA billet disapproved yesterday. Don't think I've heard of any other KC-10 or even other tanker dudes in general getting approved.

Dropped my FY15 VSP app in the system this morning at 6. Let the next fiasco begin...

Four were approved from the -135 FTU. I know a few were approved from Fairchild.

[Mish_Hacker]

An 11B T-38 IP at Laughlin got VSP. Don't know year group.

Just talked to my 11B T-38 buddy at Laughlin who applied for VSP. He got an email that said approved, but then it said disapproved and ineligible for FY14 FM. Final disposition - Disapproved.

Still appears to be zero 11Bs approved for VSP with UPT ADSC (awaiting year group info for the Exec at Minot, I suppose). One 11B approved for PC.

[Sthrndream]

I am a candidate on the ESERB board. The board convenes in June with results released in late August. I just got an email today that I am an addition to the Fall VML because of current ops manning requirements. I wasn't suppose to move until March timeframe assuming I survive the ESERB. So if I survive the ESERB, I will PCS one month later, if I don't, I retire 1 December.

You can't make this shit up!