Anyone have any info on the physical that happens right before starting UPT or during the first week? Are these the same standards as the IFC1 and MFS down at brooks?

It's been a while but I remember it being a fairly normal FCII. Eye check, hearing check, etc. The only exciting part was the footprints.

I think the idea here is to reset your flight physical clock since it will be good until you finish FTU and arrive at your first MWS base.

Ideally since folks have made it through the FCI and MFS there won't be any surprises. It happens but not often.

Edited October 24, 201015 yr by GearMonkey

Just did mine, its real basic eyes, ears, blah blah blah its not bad nothing like Brooks. Good luck

So it seems like it's just like an annual flight physical with FCII standards, is that correct?

yup exactly FCI standards

Is it FCI or FCII?

I don't think my right eye will meet the 20/70 un-corrected distance vision requirement when I do this in UPT this coming October. I didn't need a waiver for it for my initial FC1 at the Academy. I guess I'm curious what'll happen if I get there and can't pass the acuity test. Got contacts in January, plan on wearing them for pilot training if that means anything

Is it the same for OTS grads? I was under the impression that I perform an initial FC1, goto OTS, then goto MFS.. and thats it till the FC1 expires

I believe it's FC1 standards, and it's done by the local flight med office. It was pretty low threat when I went through here at Sheppard, just test you vision, blood pressure, that kind of stuff.

Bucket, you went from 20/20 to 20/70 in a year or two, or did I misread something?

No; my right eye has been a little worse than 20/70 uncorrected for a while now. I guess I managed to squeak by (aka, a flight doc who was patient) during my FC1 here at the Academy, because I didn't need an acuity waiver for my FC1 to be approved.

My eyes have been stable (refractive error, acuity, etc) for the past two years now, so I got contacts a month ago.

Edited February 17, 201213 yr by Bucket

I am about to EAD and move to my UPT base and this maybe an obscure question, but this seemed like the proper thread to post in. 

In the "Aerospace Medicine Wavier Guide" (referencing the section about ocular hypertension) there is a difference in standards for "initial aircrew" and "trained aircrew".  I don't anticipate that I have fallen out of regulations since my initial FCI, but it has me wondering what section I would fall under.  Is this still considered initial?  I am obviously not a trained aircrew member with me just about to head to UPT, but would this still qualify me under "initial aircrew"?

For reference, when I went I had 22mmHg with Corneal thickness greater than 540 microns.  The standard for "initial aircrew" is less than 26mmHg while the standard for "trained aircrew" is less than 30mmHg.

Sorry if that is an odd question or doesn't make sense.

I believe that until you are winged, you still fall under initial aircrew. But stuckindayton or someone else with more knowledge can provide the 100% answer. 

I am about to EAD and move to my UPT base and this maybe an obscure question, but this seemed like the proper thread to post in. 
In the "Aerospace Medicine Wavier Guide" (referencing the section about ocular hypertension) there is a difference in standards for "initial aircrew" and "trained aircrew".  I don't anticipate that I have fallen out of regulations since my initial FCI, but it has me wondering what section I would fall under.  Is this still considered initial?  I am obviously not a trained aircrew member with me just about to head to UPT, but would this still qualify me under "initial aircrew"?
For reference, when I went I had 22mmHg with Corneal thickness greater than 540 microns.  The standard for "initial aircrew" is less than 26mmHg while the standard for "trained aircrew" is less than 30mmHg.
Sorry if that is an odd question or doesn't make sense.

You’re still initial aircrew, but I don’t believe corneal thickness is measured on annual flight physicals.


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31 minutes ago, CaptainMorgan said:

You’re still initial aircrew, but I don’t believe corneal thickness is measured on annual flight physicals.


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Agree with both of his statements.  Until you are winged, you are untrained.  However, I've seen cases where people who had hours in UPT were treated like trained aircrew simple because money had already been invested in them.  It's certainly a gray area.

You won't get corneal pachymetry annually as the good Capt pointed out, but you will get the air puff.  If that reads 22 or above, it will be back to optometry more than likely.  But again, if it's been decided your eye pressure is normal for your eye (i.e. given your corneal thickness and lack of evidence of glaucoma) I wouldn't envision it being any issue.