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Thecounterpoint would be that if these people were selected for pilot training, they probably didn't completely suck in college. In my peer group, several of us that voluntarily quit UPT have done very well in the 13S career field (I can't speak to the other AFSCs). For those that failed UPT, the results have been mixed. Some of them are great officers who just didn't have the hands or stomach to fly, and the Air Force is better off having them around doing something else. Some of them had no business graduating college, and have struggled mightily in their new career fields. Many of them have been RIFd, passed over and involuntarily separated.

What's the moral of the story? Why cut these guys automatically when some of them could be great leaders who just went to the wrong career field initially? If they suck, they will continue to suck, and then they'll be forced out later on.

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  • Rusty Pipes
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    I love the irony of this... All of these box checking Sq/Gp/Wg Commanders will tell pilots who actually want to do their job instead of all the meaningless queep (AAD/PME in Cor/Etc) that they are an

  • so.it.goes
    so.it.goes

    This I don't get. I had an IP who actually said he wanted to get out and "do the 9-5 job thing"... He said this because he went from ROTC/Academy straight to UPT, straight to AETC. I've worked the

  • If someone lets their fear of failing UPT keep them from trying, it probably wasn't for them anyway.

What's the moral of the story? Why cut these guys automatically when some of them could be great leaders who just went to the wrong career field initially? If they suck, they will continue to suck, and then they'll be forced out later on.

I agree 100%... However, those briefs did not seem to coincide with our mindset.

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