Shultzy22
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Damn man those are great scores… sorry to hear. I read on another year’s thread that someone from the board will reach out to you if you’re next in line should a spot come open. I don’t think they release the rankings but I’m sure they have alternates listed 1 - n. In terms of spots opening up, main example I heard of was a few selectees getting accepted into reserve flying units turning down their active duty spot. MFS-N could be another way but with most people having the stamped FC1 already a MFS-N failure seems pretty unlikely.
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I might be crazy but I put Laughlin first since I’m currently in San Antonio and so are the in laws. Don’t think any of the locations are ideal lol. Does anyone know if we PCS to our UPT base and then attend IPT? Or do we TDY from our current station to IPT and then PCS to UPT?
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Just got notified, UPT select! 96 Pilot 92 PCSM, PPL, second time applying and LOR from Wg/CC in non rated AFSC. Good luck gents!!
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Any news on estimated total number of slots/what the board was prioritizing this year?
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Let's hope so! I'm honestly just glad the board was able to happen before the shutdown. Thanks for the insight and hopeful for some news soon!
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I think they would already have the number of allocations going into the board no? Idk how else they’d be able to place people in the different jobs and draw the cut line. I agree though I’m sure they’ll try to rush the list before the holidays. Makes sense there could be some delay, especially with all the civilian support AFPC has. We shall see!
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Definitely a lot of truths in here. As a non-rated cyber guy, I can attest that it's common to have Lts in leadership roles (OIC and even Flt/CC) in massive squadrons. The Flight I was Flt/CC for had 120+ peeps to lead/manage and when I swapped to DO we had a Lt take it over. The point being, there is definitely an opportunity to show leadership at any rank, and non-rated AFSCs tend to have fewer officers in general, therefore giving more leadership opportunities. I do think there is some additional factors to consider when it comes to the diversifying of AFSCs. I'm sure they factor in how many people they are taking from each career field and may have additional restrictions beyond the overall number of pilot slots for the year. Career Field Management is tricky, and there's for sure a lot of behind-the-scenes work we don't see. Anyway, our fates have been decided! Who's going to go to the rumor mill to find out how many slots they had this year?
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me calculating odds with 5 years TFCS
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I think it could be that they potentially weigh the letter of rec heavier as well in some cases. I’ve heard of people with lower scores getting picked up and they had Generals signing off vouching for leadership. That coupled with wanting to diversify from different career fields and ranks could maybe be some of the reasons but who really knows, just a best guess.
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Typically it’s whatever is loaded into PRDA I believe which would be after you sign it and it’s input by CSS. They let me email direct since I rushed it through my group and had all the signatures. It was my Flt/CC one so really wanted it included. It does suck that all Capt OPBs close 31 Aug and with board date shifted earlier I feel like you have to really push on your leadership to get it done in time for the board.
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AFPC has always been great with this board! They helped me get my most recent OPB with a solid strat submitted and added to my file this week. Very on top of everything. I wouldn’t worry too much about strats within your org. Obviously it gives you points but they pull a lot of additional info for your file, so if you’re a strong performer it’ll show, even if your Group/Wing had their own rating criteria. Big week next week! Good luck all!
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Yeah I did, and also had my letter of rec from a retired O-6 that I did all of my flight training with (probs a big misstep since they want to see someone from your chain of command to vouch for leadership). I will say that FY23 was pretty competitive with only 69 pilot slots. I wouldn’t be discouraged either way, if the rumors end up being true and we have solid numbers I think we all have a good shot at getting picked up.
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Definitely agree it comes down to framing and how the board perceives the info. I made a lot of mistakes on my first application when it came to LOR and what I thought the board cared about. Glad I was able to get feedback for this go around. Thanks! It was definitely the focus for me after they gave very pointed feedback. Made writing the personal letter a ton easier, just reflecting on taking feedback/coming back stronger and more determined. There's almost always something you can say could be better, but as long as you're happy with how you presented yourself in your application, that's all that really matters!
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That's a good attitude to have! Hard to not get in the head, but lord knows I'm stoked for some College Gameday!
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Is the waiting driving anyone else crazy? This is my second time applying (got CSO in FY23 board) so all or nothing this go around. Have 200+ hours w/PPL, 92 PCSM and 96 Pilot. Was a young LT last time and got feedback from the board to focus on leadership positions/growth. Got a masters, Flt/CC time and now an Ops O position within my unit with all the typical awards this go around. The leadership metric always drove me crazy because we have zero clue how much things are weighted within that 40% (OPBs, Strats, Letter of Rec, 215 statements etc). I’m sure there’s some delineation for how they weigh each item but who knows. Random thought but does anyone know where IPT locations will be? I’ve heard they’re literally all over the US. Anyways best of luck to everyone this go around. November can’t get here soon enough!
