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Guardian

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  1. My favorite Lori (Gen Robinson) moment, In a former job I was taking care of some transit F-15's from Eglin RONing at KTIK. I had the lead plane which had an O-6 flying it. As soon as I had it shut down and the pilot debriefed a very attractive ( 552 ACW CC) woman wearing flip flops and Daisy dukes comes up and gives a very warm welcome to the O-6. Needless to say that F-15 was the farthest thing from the mind of that pilot.   Maybe it's time we had an non pilot in charge, if it's her I'm sure at the end of tenure when she retires she will be successful as with every other job she held.  

     

    I'm sorry, but how did Robinson fit into your story? Was she the attractive woman? If so, I suggest you need to lose the beer goggles.

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    Have to say that I kinda think I fall on the same side of the fence as ihtfp06

    Interesting screen name too. I happen to have a patch that I use to wear under my name tag. I think it was something like that. Ifhtfp

  2. So there are two separate issues here. If they don't believe that memo then they have to take it up with NGB. It is official as it gets. All pilots to GS13.

    As far as the negotiations thing that is something I read about here on baseops and googled elsewhere. Every government employee on the GS scale before getting hired has the ability to negotiate their pay. Don't trust your HR office. In fact ask them to prove their point with regulations and policies. I bet they can't do it. They are usually a lot like bad recruiters who have no idea really what they are suppose to know. Research it online and on opm.gov and see the rights you have in getting hired. I don't know if someone who is already hired at GS12 or at a lower step has any rights like this. I am purely talking about new hires.

    Also this should be something between you and YOUR LEADERSHIP them your leadership is in the spot to request a higher rate/step. My leadership wrote a letter justifying the higher step and had an excel document showing how much less even a GS13 step 7 makes over the course of a comparable active duty major. PM me if you need more details. Or just ask here i guess and I will do what I can.

    Don't let the HR recruiters who likely don't know their own job tell you something that isn't true.

    I am a non instructor pilot major who got hired as a GS13 step 7 three weeks ago and not only is it legal it is the way it is suppose to be done.

  3. Choir, I understand your point. However as a civil servant you have employee rights. It's not like in the military do this job or else. You have to be willing to walk away just like any negotiation. They are obviously desperate right now because of the existence of a memo and policy like this. I bet there is even something about being hired at a comparable wage in one of the TPMs or on opm.gov. I haven't read the thread on here in a while but I bet it has something to say about bargaining for your step increase being a right and completely legal.

  4. Correct.  TR's are not Techs.  You make your money based on the type of days you are accomplishing.  Techs / ARTs are Civil Servants and (usually dual status from my limited understanding) they get paid on the GS scales found on opm.gov

    Gearpig......downloaded.  I'm not sure how that method of download works but I also hopefully properly attached the file to this post.

    PDR 15-1018 ANG Airplane Pilot Update.pdf

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  5. Has anyone seen the July 15 or so memo from NGB that states all pilots applying for ART / tech can be hired at GS13 even if they aren't IP's? It's true and works. I can attest. I had a buddy in California who told his state level that and they balked at him. So I passed on the memo and they quickly stuffed their collective foots in their mouths.

    It was sent out in summer 2015. And my buddies' state level hadn't heard about in in Jan 16. Glad I saved that email. I thought if they hadn't seen it maybe other units hadn't. I haven't looked at it lately but I don't think their is an expiration however it seemed like a retention thing which by definition means it will go away at some point.

    I went from being told I was going to have to be a GS12 step 1 to being hired as a GS13 step 7. My leadership had usually hired people at step 1 and I told them about the post I saw on base Ops about bargaining or showing comparison to be hired at a higher step.

    It's now helped myself and another in my unit get step 7. And guess what, with the price comparison, a GS 13 step 7 still takes home less than an active duty major AGR on the bonus.

    Thoughts? Anyone else not heard of this NGB memo?

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