HeloDude

Here's the problem I see when you try to argue (which means I'm either getting better or you're getting worse or some combination of there of) is that you argue almost entirely on emotion. Your main source of argument is that 'we should do X because it's the right thing to do, it's the 'fair' thing to do, it's what other western countries do'...blah blah blah--that's arguing on emotion. Or when you say, 'well, the majority of the people want X from the government, therefore we should do it, blah blah blah'--now you're just arguing on behalf of other people's emotions. And occasionally you'll bring up The Constitution, when it suits you--ie gay marriage, voter ID, etc...and good on you when that occasionally happens. And occasionally (you used to do it much more) you'll actually post data to back up what you say...and for the record, finding someone else to give their opinion that you share still makes it just an opinion. So to address your comments: -The woman in the video doesn't 'seem' like an idiot, she is one. 200 years ago she'd be dead because nobody would want to support a lazy bum (and yes, I'm aware of slavery, etc...200 years ago a white guy saying the same thing would be dead). And there are plenty more just like her, in all genders and ethnicity. Again, welfare has been rapidly on the rise over the recent years (you never responded to that one). I watched some of the DNC convenetion--your party ran on giving free stuff, whether it was healthcare, education, birth control, health insurance, etc. This woman (again, regardless of what color she is as there are crack moms of all ethnic backgrounds) helps your party win elections. -Yep, the article on Obamacare came from the National Review, though the GAO came out with the figure. You never commented on the fact that the GAO said it will add $6 TRILLION to the debt--you just dodged the issue and talked about how you wanted something else. Also, you never responded to the fact that if the Dems were serious about spending cuts then they would have never had passed Obamacare in its current form. -It is almost entirely about winning elections for the Dems, that and getting more people on the government dole, which then helps then win more elections. You proved my point a couple days ago by saying it was non-politically smart for Obama to decide where to make the cuts. But yet, I'm supposed to believe that he really wants cuts? If he wanted cuts, then he should have had his party accept the GOP proposal so that he as the President could decide where to make the cuts. But, since it's all about politics, he refused. Me, I would love to prioritize what's important and what's least important and make the cuts accordingly, but then that would require leadership on his part. But I understand, he'd rather campaign more than lead. -As for future elections, dude, you called it a while back when I didn't see it--the demographics are changing so rapidly that the Dems have a distinct advantage, and thus again, that's why they want to provide more entitlements (that an amnesty) to ensure the vote. Rubio may be able to pull out a squeaker against Hillary in 2016 (and if so, may be able to pull out another close one in 2020 due to incumbency), but I think that's it. The only way the GOP could win after that is if they became more like Dems and jump on the entitlement bandwagon, but in that case, what's the difference (In many ways they've already done this). A latest poll I saw 2 weeks ago (searched but couldn't find it) stated that 79% of Hispanics believe the government should do MORE for people...well, we all know the party that enjoys giving more, and the vast majority of these 79% will vote accordingly--similar to what happened in Nov. Like you said man, it's not rocket surgery--I get it. Here is the link about how Hispanic vote is likely to double by 2030. So there it is man, like I said, I get it. You even have more and more people from the Dem party saying we don't have a spending problem--Pelosi, Sen Harkin, and I could name others if need be. So until something big happens, like an economic collapse, I see the vector heading the same way. ...oh, and for the other BO'ers, sorry for the TDLR post again. If you were a true Libertarian, you would be against just about all forms of federal welfare programs. If States want to do it, that's fine. Man, had to call you out again.

And what is a liberal's (ie Nsplayr) response to this: More people on some form of welfare than ever before, whether it be food stamps, government housing, disability, Medicaid, etc, but yes, 'it's not getting worse' he says--give me a break. Oh and he also tried to argue that increases in out of wedlock births 'may not be a bad thing'...yes, more unmarried moms are definitely the way forward to prosperity <sarcasm>. The Dems always play this game--they deny, shift the discussion, and then deny again if necessary. Just look at how the Dems vote and the statistics that arise from their policy--they WANT people relying on the federal government in one form or another. Then they are the ones saying 'look what we are doing for you...the other side wants to take it away'. If the Dems were serious about cutting spending then they would have never passed Obamacare, which the GAO is now saying will add $6 TRILLION to the long-term deficit. NSplayr is correct when it comes to one thing--to him and the left, it's all about politics and winning elections.

Here's another sad but important reason to not send your children to a public schoo-just in case you needed another reason to not allow your child to be indoctrinated by liberal thought. Funny, when I was growing up we always drew pictures of airplanes shooting each other, missiles being fired, guys shooting each other, etc. Then again I was fortunate enough to attend a private school where the teachers and administrators used some common sense. https://www.breitbart.com/Breitbart-TV/2013/03/02/7-Year-Old-Boy-suspended-for-shaping-pastry-into-gun

Yep. I hit refresh a few times in the 30 min after I posted, and saw it decrease each time until it was gone. Have to be quick...or have boughten a lot prior to Dec. Now if I could only get some .22!

7.62 x 39 of Golden Tiger available, but going quick. Limit 1 box/200 for $60 https://sgammo.com/product/golden-tiger/200-round-lot-762x39-fmj-bt-golden-tiger-124-grain-ammo-limit-1-lot-customer-da

I love my MP 22 Pistol...I would even go as far to say that it's my favorite of all my firearms. So much that I'm debating at buying another one just because. The problem is finding additional magazines--I bought 2 extra mags last summer for about $30/piece and now kygunco has them going for over $50...and they're never in stock. As for .22 ammo, wish I could help. I still have about 1500 rds and quite a bit on backorder but it will be a sad day if and when I run out. I checked on gunbroker and it's insane to see what some people are asking for when it comes to .22. If anybody ever sees any at a decent price then please share the info.

Looking forward to seeing this happen do the unfortunate reality that the Dems in CO are foaming at the mouth to restrict Rights and Liberties. The interesting question--where will they move to? My bet is Utah, though it would be pretty sweet if they moved to either Wyoming or Idaho. On a different issue, check this out: https://www.theblaze.com/stories/2013/03/02/high-school-student-disarms-gunman-gets-suspended/ So a few students disarm a fellow student that was holding another student at gunpoint...and the heroic students get suspended? WTF? Unless there are some more extreme details not being discussed, then this is insane. Though then again, it comes from the public school system which as a whole is very idiotic, compliments from liberal ideology and the teachers union. If I were the parents, I would demand a public apology along with the school authorities stating how the kids were heroic...if not, pull them out of the school. This is what our country has become in a lot of places, quite sad.

I responded to your nonsense in The Constitution thread...seems more appropriate to have the discussion there vs in the college football thread. https://www.flyingsquadron.com/forums/index.php?/topic/19515-liberty-rights-and-the-constitution/page__st__40__gopid__340800#entry340800

Don't say that man, it's mean...to all of us that said we did BQZip's mom.

Ahh...so since you seem to have it all figured out (regardless if you're a 2nd Amendment 'supporter' or not), let me ask you: When does the 2nd Amendment no longer 'stand'? If they come back and ban magazines to 5 rounds will it still stand? What if they ban bolt action rifles--still stand? Will it still stand if they only allow single round shotguns? When in your wisdom is the line drawn? That's great--but who says I have to follow your same home defense set-up? By your argument, I could say that guys don't need vasectomies because they could just use condoms. Or are we talking about personal choices and freedoms/liberties here? So States can now violate The Constitution?...as long as I can move to a different State that doesn't, then it's cool, right? So Montana can ban access to Facebook because 'hey, you can move to a State that doesn't...or maybe they can limit you to only 5 posts a day, as long as I can move to a State that won't limit my number of posts? Maybe a State can have limitations to the 13th Amendment, as long as people aren't slaves the entire day...besides, the poor guys can move to a State that follows the 13th Amendment, so all is good, right? I'm very interested in reading your insightful replies...

So just so I'm clear, we can't hold politicians to anything they say...even if it's something they propose in a bill, if according to a few/some/most it will never become law? In that case, there should have been no backlash against Akin in the MO Senate race because him saying 'legitimate rape', etc doesn't really matter because it would have near zero chance of ever affecting any laws--is this correct? Same for the entire GOP--the majority of the party's politicians call themselves pro-life, and occassionally put up bills to deny abortion, but it really doesn't matter because since 1973, abortion rights have always been upheld--they have never been taken away. Also, thank God folks in NY don't have to get rid of their 'pre-ban 1994 high capacity magazines'...oh wait, yeah, they have to get rid of them or become a criminal. Sure sounds like Dems coming for their guns, or at least gun magazines to me. https://www.governor.ny.gov/2013/gun-reforms Try again man...

Agree--either he is trying to make an actual point or doesn't know how to relay sarcasm effectively. Either way, there are in fact people trying to take away our guns. Just look at a bill proposed by Dems in the Missouri State Legislature...just one example for you.

Yes. Yes I do. This is what scares me about the Navy... No, it's not because a bunch of dudes want to stand around in towels hanging out with each other (besides it's ok now), but because they have a Safety Board in the bathroom! That's just too much...I can do some Ops Limits and Boldface but that's about it.

But before you go... Because I get to feel safe and secure that I get to work in drug-free work environment.... ...and

Great networking organizations that won't spam your email account and super fun/cool social opportunities for new pilots and aircrew...

Most hilarious post yet!

Outstanding customer service from support squadrons, like Finance...

PSA has forged stripped lowers for $120...not a bad price these says for a non-polymer. https://palmettostatearmory.com/index.php/ar-15-05/lower-parts/lower-receivers/psa-ar15-lower.html

26 Jul 05'! Damn! That was definitely a while ago. Don't worry, just take after our politicians and deny, sidetrack, and then deny again. Repeat if necessary. Back on subject--I've been missing Rainman as well. And as of 20 Sep 11', "It's ok now".

Sent--thanks man.

Damn--sorry guys.

I just clicked on the link and if says 'In Stock'??

https://grabagun.com/magpul-industries-pmag-m3-223rem-30rd-blk.html $26 a piece for PMags and with free shipping. Definitely not the worst price these days. If you need some and they're not sold out, I wouldn't sit on it.

You're not? Funny, you talk shit about officers damn near everyday on this forum. And this issue is no different--you comment on things you have little to no idea on what you're talking about. Do yourself a favor, if you do happen to make it into the Air Force, please don't be as foolish of a 2Lt as your portray yourself here. It's challenging enough to mentor the young guys when they don't have the 'I know everything' attitude. As a school house IP, guys you like you always took much more of my valuable time compared to those who needed additional help but were willing to take instruction and critism. Welcome to the military.

https://www.trijicon.com/na_en/products/product3.php?pid=TA31ECOS Here's a fantastic option if you can afford it. I shot my buddy's last weekend and though transitioning from the red dot to the ACOG/magnified reticle (ie scope) would definitely take some practice, it seems to capture thr best of both worlds...and it's hard to go wrong with a Trijicon.