HuggyU2

Do any of you have any experience owning one? I'm considering buying one, and am looking for data.

Back to the "Who is the one person most responsible for safety at an airshow"... The airshow industry did a survey this year, including this question. 91% of Airbosses said the Airboss is. 28% of pilots said Airboss. And 60% of airshow organizers said Airboss. As one airboss stated (I'm paraphrasing): the fact that 71% of pilots think they (pilots) are most responsible just goes to show how little they actually know.

Maybe he is referring to the 3 GH pilots we hired to be full time T-38 IP's, including funding full-up PIT training. Or maybe the 2 GH pilots we interviewed and selected to the U-2. Or maybe the GH pilot who is my squadron CC, and is a good guy, doing well in the job. Or maybe the attempts I personally make to invite GH pilots to Daedalians (so far, only 1 regular taker). Yeah,... I'm a exclusionary asshole.

U-2 "retirement" has been pushed out to 2016, as per the FYDP. GH replace the U-2? That's funny. Personally, I'll put money down that the U-2 will still be around when GH is retired.

Care to elaborate?

Tell you what,... you let us know how it pans out for you.

You post THIS after having me... Mr PowerPoint-Unable... build the airshow brief for this week?? You, sir, are despicable.

Back to airshow safety... So, who do y'all think is most responsible for safety at an airshow? Air Boss FAA Rep (Inspector in Charge) Individual Performer Organizer of the show ("Individual Responsible")

Are you going to go thru the Fixed Wing Qual program? If it still exists, I recall it was only around 6-7 months. And I'm guessing you got your Army Fixed Wing rating via Flight Safety, or something like that?

2..., I mean "Deuce".

Curious... There's a lot of respect for Lt Gen Frank Gorenc. And for good reason. Big guy, he is. I'm guessing he's never had a 36" waist or smaller. Seems it hasn't affected his ability to be a great commander.

... except for the fact that it we shouldn't be so overmanned in CENTCOM that they have the folks to "monitor" these tests. $28M for the testing program AF wide, and we need to trim our spending?

Spoo, Is this your not-so-subtle-way of poking me in the eye? For the record, Comm had NO control of those "bad boys".

On a happier note, I saw the March ARB C-17 Demo perform twice this weekend. It's at least the 22th performance I've seen them do. They created the profile, they have a lot of experience in that unit, and they do a fantastic job. I see a lot of airshows. I ask folks "which military demo was your favorite". More than a few choose the March C-17 demo.

Irrelevant. The FAA does not have jurisdiction in Germany, even on an American airbase. If you watch the TBirds, you will notice the crossing point after their bomb burst is 500' past the far right edge of the crowd line. Had the Frecci Tricolori, done that, it might have been a different outcome. Maj "Moose" Phillips: thanks for the correction. I never met him. Also, there was the F-117 demo crash over the Martin State, MD show in 1997. That was a mechanical failure and had nothing to do with the airshow... or so I'm told.

A very misleading statement, since there hasn't been a spectator death in a US airshow since 1954. Compare that to,... oh,...say Monster Truck racing. Last year, 2 spectators died in under two weeks at separate venues. One was a child. Yet no one is wringing their hands on how we "stop the madness" in Monster Truck. And let's just see what exactly what the accident board comes up with in the C-17 accident before we knee jerk this. Yes. Moose Phillips (F-16 East) was killed at Kingsville around 2002 in a performance.

As idiotic as it is, rides are not possible on a USAF base. Navy base,... well that's a different story.

Amen! The first thing you have ever posted that I agree with. Thanks for volunteering.

Contraildish, You are implying he didn't attempt to go around. We don't know that. A high steep approach, in idle, and a late decision to go around, coupled with engine spool might have caused his go around to end prematurely. Too bad he didn't demand to land on 36L.

You are correct... he had only about 6000' at best to roll wing level, stabilize, land, and stop on rwy 18R. I don't know anything about the Premier's abilities, but it was certainly tight. Even the other guy in the pattern supposedly questioned tower's clearance to Roush. Yes, he overshot. Very fortunate he didn't take out performer's aircraft or people. I wasn't looking when it happened, but went over to the Performers Tent the next day, and looked at the site. He crashed proably about 1000' south of the P-2 intersection, right of 18R.

I read that Allen refused to have that photo anywhere in his facilities, and until the day he died, the photo infuriated him.

Does that include Creech?

Ummm... your photo is upside down..

OK, I'll bite on this thread. Maybe not the best, but Beale doesn't suck. Nevermind the great airspace for the actual military flying... Great weather for general aviation piloting. 6 GA airports within an hour. You want warbirds? World class soaring? Look no further. Tahoe ski basin 1+30 - 2+00 away, including Squaw Valley (free for military) Lake Tahoe for the summer. Sierra Nevadas 1 hour. World class mountain biking. San Fran 2 hours away,... too much to list Wanna get away? SFO has direct flights to nearly anywhere in the world. Reno 2 hours away. Air races coming up in 2 months. Who's going? Napa and Sonoma Valley under 2 hours. Sacramento 1 hour... State capital, college town, good times. Sac Airport to LAX in about an hour, and $150 one way,... cheaper if you plan ahead. I've done San Dawg for ~$50 on SWA.