soultrain

Cool story, bro.

Did anyone notice the photo of a scantily clad young lady on the wall in one scene during last night's episode? I was dismayed & insulted. How can we trust these guys to execute this critical mission with blatantly offensive material on display where such fragile eyes can see it? Aside from that, it's a great show. *sarcasm off*

Just owning up to a misfire & figured I owed the dude an apology. It's his career & it would weigh heavily on me to be in his shoes. Now back to your regularly scheduled program...

Dude, my bad...I just realized you said "passed over to Major" (vs Lt Col...different math). I would've deleted my original post, but figured I'd own it instead. Good luck to you - hope you can walk with a parting gift.

Some perspective you've got there, Vetter. Let me get this straight...the AF wants to "###### you" by paying you 110K/year+ for the next 6-8 years, then really twist the knife by making you a member of the retired paycheck-of-the-month club until you turn room temperature at age 89. They're really turning up the heat these days, eh?

You know who I feel bad for? The retired dudes that run www.militarycorruption.com...yeah, their heads just exploded in unison upon reading that article. Get ready for the mother-of-all-articles (with Drama-meter pegged at 11) on their website tomorrow.

Great job, "badass"...we'll be seeing your daughter on stage at the strip club when she decides to get even. Teenage girls do & say stupid things, but parents are the ones that can mess their kids up forever with irresponsible crap like this. Clown.

Curious...you mean some airplanes aren't "intended" for barrel rolls? Chasing our tails on this one...I believe we all know right from wrong here. I get your devil's advocate standpoint...but it's a losing argument. Akin to barrel rolling a T-38 on a UPT instrument flight...certainly possible, but stupid - and with an equally predictable outcome.

And...your thoughts on the accident posted above, NEFlyer? Narrative: While on a proficiency check flight both pilots attempted to perform a barrel roll (a prohibited aerobatics manoeuvre). The Beech struck the ground shortly before completion of the roll. PROBABLE CAUSE: "The deliberate disregard for Federal Aviation Regulations, GP Express procedures, and prudent concern for safety by the two pilots in their decision to execute an aerobatic manoeuvre during a scheduled check ride flight, and the failure of GP Express management to establish and maintain a commitment to instill professionalism in their pilots consistent with the highest levels of safety necessary for an airline operating scheduled passenger service."

Copy...non-answer. I didn't ask what you wouldn't do...what would you do? Let's assume these were "good dudes", and this was a singular lapse of judgement. No harm, no foul? When you say "have their back, discipline, and move on"...what exactly do you mean by discipline? Q-3?

CJ-6A....imagine for a moment that you are the Sq/CC of these guys. (let's assume for the moment that what's currently being discussed is fact....because for all we know, it's rumor at best). Anyway...what action, if any, would you take? Would you Q-3 them? Would you feel compelled to let your Wg/CC know? Or would you give them a stern talking-to and put them on tomorrow's schedule?

Except for "CJ-6A"...to whom my post was directed. His question was: "What TO/AFI guidance says not to roll a King Air? The aircraft did not exceed its G-limits, airspeed, or come close to a CFIT scenario." To me, this sounds like "Who cares? What reg did they break? It wasn't unsafe, so what?" Hammer the mouth-breathers that thought it would be fun to barrel roll a MC-12, and get back to the business of winning a war.

"B-B-But Robin Olds would've..."...yeah, I know. Welcome to 50 years later. Try telling the airline Captain conducting your future FedEx interview why you think a willing breach of flight discipline is "no biggie...wasn't unsafe, so who cares?" See how far that gets you. Grow up and set the bar high...it's there for a reason.

Shack. Flying airplanes is "fun" enough when you're inside the 11-2XXXv3 parameters...showing your ass & willingly disregarding the rules is foolish. Be afraid of the guys who see nothing wrong with that or, worse, gotten away with it and still see nothing wrong with it. CJ-6A...your flippant attitude is disappointing. I hope you're not in a position to influence the younger dudes.